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"Values and Virtues part 1: Morality and Ethics" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2008-04-20 03:15:59

According to legend when architect Christopher Wren completed the new in London. promote Anne's response was that the edifice was "awful artificial and amusing." Wren went from that encounter not to mourn but to experience over the royal response. After all her (legendary) evaluation at first look quite insulting in the English of only 200 years later (Wren's builders finished the cathedral in 1708) was that the cathedral struck the eye sublimely (awful) exhibited the highest of craftsmanship (artificial) and transported the soul that beheld it (amusing.)I realize that as I write these things. I am breaking no new fasten. Such is not always the office of the teacher; sometimes (more often than not) our job is to inform. This little set of posts will act to inform the reader about words' etymologies and how they can help us think about how we be as Christians in the world. Sometimes Words undergo Two MeaningsOverinterpreting can sometimes be worse than misinterpreting so I must first in the arouse of honesty say that the Romans (they and the Greeks always go up in my posts don't they?) saw mos and its forms as perfectly suitable translations for the Greek ethika. Hence Latin editions have in mind without much of a back up thought to Aristotle's famous work on ethics (Greek Ta Ethika) as the Moribus ad Nicomachum. I say this largely to avoid the error of assuming that some vast genetic gap exists between ethics and morality. That said some more modern developments in right-and-wrong talk might prove helpful as I investigate the languages of values and of virtues so for the purposes of this little conjoin. I will use ethics to have in mind to that body of expectations that defines a class of people within a larger community and morality to indicate a set of expectations that according to those who still communicate of morality binds all people irrespective of their roles in the community. Such a distinction is not entirely arbitrary: in modern universities many departments furnish courses on business ethics legal ethics bioethics and other sorts of ethics. That one can identify between business and legal ethics indicates that one can evaluate different sorts of things from a physician than from a lawyer and that the character of the position to some extent determines the expectations. On the other hand aside from joking contexts one less frequently hears about morality specific to a profession. When writers create verbally about a decline in morality they generally convey a trend in behavior common to all kinds of people. The distinction is important. I think because given such a distinction we Christians have a duty both to communicate about morality and about Christian ethics and the two are not always the same. With regards to morality. I will not here go any suggestions as to the content of morality but will insist that we Christians should indeed have something to say about it. To say that one's tradition speaks truthfully about what makes human life good is not the imperialistic affirm that folks often lay at the feet of Christians. It is simply to say that one has a philosophy worth calling a philosophy. Whatever morality is. Christians have a stake in its shape. That said whatever Christians say about morality we should say it assuming that not everyone is among those chosen to be God's city on a hill. (Old Calvinists might say that not all are elect.) Morality as a category applies to a good life that is common to a community and ultimately to any given community. If we Christians decline to speak about human good we'll be the only ones who undergo dropped out of that go; the Marxists and agnostics and capitalists have already spoken and will act to speak. But for the moment. I ordain set morality aside and communicate about what it might mean to speak and write about Christian ethics. The Priesthood of the FaithfulI realize that most Protestants prefer to communicate about the Priesthood of Believers but allow me for a moment to shift the cerebrate of that concept from cognition to life more broadly considered. When Martin Luther articulated this concept in Babylonian Captivity of the Church his point seems to be that while a congregation can and perhaps ought to choose from among itself members who ordain be ministers. Christ has lain priestly responsibilities and priestly functions upon all whom Christ claims as followers. In Luther's polemic the aim seems to be the hierarchy of Rome; however if I might decrease for a moment the phrase's proximity to those disputes. I will say that in Exodus 19 (later to be echoed in 1 Peter 2 and Revelation 5). Ha-Shem gives the people a role relative to the nations that are not Israel. For a nation to be priestly means that what God expects of them differs from and stands related to the good life for humanity in general. Such is the beginning of Christian ethics. In Romans and 1 Peter among other places the New Testament indicates that the Church has taken on the priestly responsibility that characterizes God's people on earth. Because of that role in the world. Christian ethics has to do not only with how we be as individual consciousnesses before God but also with how we live as priest to the nations. To remove into the circumscribe of Christian ethics would also go beyond the scope of a blog post. As a matter of form. Christian ethics would have to take into be those three important entities: the World broadly conceived; the perform; and God known as Father and Son and animate. It would undergo to furnish a compelling be of how the Christian remains in the world (as an American a female a lawyer a vegetarian) while being not-of-the-world. Moreover. Christian ethics must. I think undergo something to do with the shape of everyday life those practices that both attach us off as the priestly populate and constitute our priestly role in the lives of the nations. In the next part of this series of posts. I will communicate for a bit about the virtues and Virtue and how they play out in a priestly ethics. So what do you think about the basic taxonomy that I set up in this series? Does my distinction between morality and Christian ethics make comprehend? And do you reckon I located values properly relative to those two? "If you really understand Reformed theology we should all just sit around shaking our heads going. ‘It’s unbelievable. Why would God choose any of us?' You are so amazed by alter you’re not picking a fight with anyone - you’re just crying tears of amazement that should lead to a heart for lost populate that God does indeed deliver when he doesn’t have to save anybody."Joshua Harris senior pastor of pledge Life Church Just because we undergo included links to certain websites or blogs does not necessarily mean that we endorse accept with or otherwise support everything these sites stand for or all of their content (although this would seem to go without saying). As always gratify use discernment.. and be open-minded. If you have any questions about our links or any other content on this communicate please contact.





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"Values and Virtues part 1: Morality and Ethics" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2008-04-20 03:15:37

According to legend when architect Christopher Wren completed the new in London. Queen Anne's response was that the edifice was "awful artificial and amusing." Wren went from that encounter not to grieve but to experience over the royal response. After all her (legendary) evaluation at first look quite insulting in the English of only 200 years later (Wren's builders finished the cathedral in 1708) was that the cathedral struck the eye sublimely (awful) exhibited the highest of craftsmanship (artificial) and transported the soul that beheld it (amusing.)I cognise that as I write these things. I am breaking no new fasten. Such is not always the office of the teacher; sometimes (more often than not) our job is to remind. This little set of posts ordain attempt to remind the reader about words' etymologies and how they can back up us think about how we be as Christians in the world. Sometimes Words Have Two MeaningsOverinterpresound can sometimes be worse than misinterpreting so I must first in the interest of honesty note that the Romans (they and the Greeks always come up in my posts don't they?) saw mos and its forms as perfectly suitable translations for the Greek ethika. Hence Latin editions refer without much of a second thought to Aristotle's famous bring home the bacon on ethics (Greek Ta Ethika) as the Moribus ad Nicomachum. I say this largely to forbid the error of assuming that some vast genetic gap exists between ethics and morality. That said some more modern developments in right-and-wrong talk might prove helpful as I explore the languages of values and of virtues so for the purposes of this little piece. I ordain use ethics to have in mind to that body of expectations that defines a class of people within a larger community and morality to tell a set of expectations that according to those who comfort communicate of morality binds all people irrespective of their roles in the community. Such a distinction is not entirely arbitrary: in modern universities many departments offer courses on business ethics legal ethics bioethics and other sorts of ethics. That one can identify between business and legal ethics indicates that one can expect different sorts of things from a physician than from a lawyer and that the character of the position to some extent determines the expectations. On the other hand aside from joking contexts one less frequently hears about morality specific to a profession. When writers write about a change state in morality they generally mean a turn in behavior common to all kinds of people. The distinction is important. I think because given such a distinction we Christians have a duty both to communicate about morality and about Christian ethics and the two are not always the same. With regards to morality. I will not here advance any suggestions as to the content of morality but will insist that we Christians should indeed have something to say about it. To say that one's tradition speaks truthfully about what makes human life good is not the imperialistic claim that folks often lay at the feet of Christians. It is simply to say that one has a philosophy worth calling a philosophy. Whatever morality is. Christians undergo a stake in its cause. That said whatever Christians say about morality we should say it assuming that not everyone is among those chosen to be God's city on a forge. (Old Calvinists might say that not all are choose.) Morality as a category applies to a good life that is common to a community and ultimately to any given community. If we Christians decline to communicate about human good we'll be the only ones who have dropped out of that race; the Marxists and agnostics and capitalists have already spoken and will continue to speak. But for the moment. I will set morality aside and communicate about what it might mean to speak and create verbally about Christian ethics. The Priesthood of the FaithfulI cognise that most Protestants like to communicate about the Priesthood of Believers but allow me for a moment to alter the cerebrate of that concept from cognition to life more broadly considered. When Martin Luther articulated this concept in Babylonian Captivity of the perform his point seems to be that while a congregation can and perhaps ought to choose from among itself members who ordain be ministers. Christ has lain priestly responsibilities and priestly functions upon all whom Christ claims as followers. In Luther's polemic the target seems to be the hierarchy of Rome; however if I might decrease for a moment the phrase's proximity to those disputes. I ordain say that in Exodus 19 (later to be echoed in 1 Peter 2 and Revelation 5). Ha-Shem gives the people a role relative to the nations that are not Israel. For a nation to be priestly means that what God expects of them differs from and stands related to the good life for humanity in command. Such is the beginning of Christian ethics. In Romans and 1 Peter among other places the New Testament indicates that the perform has taken on the priestly responsibility that characterizes God's people on earth. Because of that role in the world. Christian ethics has to do not only with how we live as individual consciousnesses before God but also with how we live as priest to the nations. To delve into the circumscribe of Christian ethics would also go beyond the scope of a blog affix. As a matter of create. Christian ethics would have to take into account those three important entities: the World broadly conceived; the Church; and God known as create and Son and Spirit. It would have to give a compelling account of how the Christian remains in the world (as an American a female a lawyer a vegetarian) while being not-of-the-world. Moreover. Christian ethics must. I evaluate have something to do with the shape of everyday life those practices that both mark us off as the priestly populate and constitute our priestly role in the lives of the nations. In the next move of this series of posts. I will talk for a bit about the virtues and Virtue and how they compete out in a priestly ethics. So what do you evaluate about the basic taxonomy that I set up in this series? Does my distinction between morality and Christian ethics alter sense? And do you reckon I located values properly relative to those two? "If you really understand Reformed theology we should all just sit around shaking our heads going. ‘It’s unbelievable. Why would God decide any of us?' You are so amazed by grace you’re not picking a contend with anyone - you’re just crying tears of amazement that should bring about to a heart for lost populate that God does indeed save when he doesn’t have to deliver anybody."Joshua Harris senior pastor of pledge Life perform Just because we have included links to certain websites or blogs does not necessarily mean that we endorse agree with or otherwise support everything these sites rest for or all of their circumscribe (although this would be to go without saying). As always gratify use discernment.. and be open-minded. If you have any questions about our links or any other circumscribe on this communicate gratify communicate.





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"RMO: The Authority of Christ" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2008-01-29 20:11:55

O’Donovan having articulated the orderly (teleological) structure of creation (including eschatology and history) the necessity of our knowledge of that coordinate for ethics and having begun explaining the free response to this reality that the Holy Spirit evokes turns now to divine authority as revealed in Jesus Christ. When we speak of the authority of Christ we can speak of it in two aspects: (1) the origination of his authority which is from the Father and (2) the appropriation of that authority which is the bring home the bacon of the animate. O’Donovan having already addressed the nature of the free response that the animate evokes turns to the nature and origination of Christ’s authority. First the authority of Christ is not incommunicable. God has given the Son authority in public in plain view of us all. As a prove divine authority is not an “inner compulsion of which we can give no account.” If we limit it to such it reduces morality into individual vocation which is one of the unsavory effects of voluntarism’s emphasis on the inscrutability of the divine. The ethic of the Kingdom is not to be opposed to practical ‘this-worldliness.’ For Christian ethical reasoning the practical affairs of this world must be accounted for. If theological ethics are to be ethics at all they must undergo some bearing on human life here and now. But here we sight ourselves at the foundation of all Christian ethics: the Incarnation. This “divine irruption is more than an irruption: it is the foundation of a renewed order.” Here particularity and universality collide. O’Donovan argues curiously that Christ’s particularity belongs to Jesus’ comprehend nature while universality belongs to his human nature. “The meaning of the whole has been focused in a representative one.” What is the create then of the comprehend authority in Christ? There are three interrelated questions that must be answered: how Christ’s moral authority is On the one transfer. Jesus is unique. He is the one whom God has sent. On the other transfer his life “is the pattern to which we may change ourselves.” This however presents a paradox: if Socrates for instance bears watch to the moral order any individual might have done so just as come up. He is then not unique. As Kant puts it. “Even the Holy One of the Gospels must be compared with our ideal of moral perfection before he is recognized as such.” In other words. Christ does not lighten our standard of perfection at all. O’Donovan attempts to resolve this dilemma by distinguishing two aspects of Jesus’ authority: “his ‘moral authority’ in the strict comprehend in which he confronts us as teacher and as an object of imitation and his authority as the comprehend evince by whom God proclaims the redemption of the created order.” O’Donovan continues in this key passage: When God declares in the resurrection of Jesus that he ordain bear on redeem and transform that which hea has made his evince is which holds the moral order in being. If as an experiment in thought we were to abstract Jesus’ moral authority from the authority of this comprehend word we might say about him everything that we might say about Socrates…The inform at which Jesus is irreplaceable is not here. He is irreplaceable because in his resurrection the moral order was publicly and cosmically vindicated by God. fear Francis may teach morality as come up as Jesus but only Jesus has revealed God’s final redemptive evince about morality. This path however leads to a dangerous conclusion. If left to rest as is then it seems Jesus has no special authority as a moral teacher at all. He to our minds then there is no be at all for moral teachers. Hence. Jesus has moral authority because of his exceptional life which “is needed to show populate things which however universally true these may be they are not capable of recognizing otherwise.” On the ontological aim however the uniqueness of Jesus is change surface stronger. “Jesus is not only a watch to the restored moral request however indispensable; he is the one in whom that request has go to be… To act in the new creation is not provisionally only but for ever to act in Christ.” The tension between law and gospel points to a dialectical tension between the ‘dominate’ and the ‘promise.’ And this tension is a historical tension–it is a tension that is grounded in the historical development of Israel. The undergo of the law then is the undergo of Israel when the fulfillment of the promise has yet to go. The dominate becomes “a overleap one must beat in order to experience blessing.” As such it “evokes anxiety but not anxiety for the future of the community so much as for the individual.” ” While this message is certainly present in the Old Testament in Jesus’ message “this theme assumes a controlling immediacy which allows Paul to differentiate the gospel with the law as a life of faith as opposed to a life of works.” (b) Secondly. “the alienation and insecurity of the individual is overcome by The coming of Christ has a historical authority because it is in his coming that history is given a climax. The revelation of God was “in these last days spoken to us by a Son.” His speaking “confers a unique meaning on the shape of world events,” a meaning that affects each and every event in history. “No deed of man can claim any longer to have autonomous intelligibility.” Here O’Donovan addresses a key issue in Christian revelation: how should we understand say the commands of God to destroy nations in Joshua? I quote at length. Historical authority can displace together in one narrative to answer one historical end contradictory movements. A story can encompass a change of object or a disagreement and comfort remain a story with a hit inform not in itself contradictory or divided. The dying thief can acknowledge Christ upon the go across and in that moment of repentance bring all his life to brigandage to its fulfillment not merely its last few hours. Historical authority can harmonise where moral authority can only adjudicate. We must expect to find then within the world-history which Christ shapes around himself moral incompatibilities that are reconciled historically. When we construe for example of the conquest of Canaan and the terms of the ban we ordain understand the Christological significance of these events only if we suspend the moral challenge which we immediately want to put to them. The Christian reading of the Old Testament has been constantly baffled by a failure to understand this. The moral question has pushed itself send either in indignant protest or (worse) in sophistic justification. desire the elder brother of the prodigal son. Christians reading the book of Joshua need to learn how to ask other questions before the moral ones: the history of divine revelation desire the waiting father in the parable is not concerned only with justifying the good and condemning the bad. This Old Testament history is concerned only to show the impact of the divine reality upon the human in election and judgment. We may query of course as we construe the book of Joshua what attitude this God of jealousy and wrath ordain take to the worldly order of things; and that question ordain be answered for us only as we follow the story of his self-revelation send to its climax in Jesus Christ. The demand which this part of the story makes upon our faith is not that we should assay to reconcile in moral terms the create of the creaturely order which is shown us by Christ in Gethsemane with these unbridled acts of war but that we should accept what is perhaps the greater scandal: a reconciliation in history of comprehend revelation which can embrace change surface such a contradiction to the moral request. In God’s self-disclosure something had to come the vindication of the moral request: the transcendent blast of election and judgment had to be shown in all its nakedness in all its possible hostility to the world if we were to hit the books what it meant that in Christ the Word of God became get rid of and took the cause of the world to his own create. This ‘had to’ refers to an order of self-disclosure which was necessary if we were to understand the merchandise of the incarnation and not to any necessity imposed on God. The incarnation must never be taken for granted as though it concerned a God who was quite naturally and in the cover of things at domiciliate in the world. Before we could learn of God as vindicator of the moral request we had to hit the books something change surface more basic. Indeed. But the moral questions are not forgotten. Rather they are answered in Christ who vindicates the created request in a way “never anticipated in the book of Joshua.” As O’Donovan puts it. “To be among the chosen of Israel’s God means in the end to be conformed to the order of worldly life which God has created.” This means though that the expression of religion in the Old Testament is contingent not permanent and the rejection of Jesus by the Jews is a rejection of their own status as God’s people.





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"RMO: The Authority of Christ" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2008-01-29 20:11:50

O’Donovan having articulated the orderly (teleological) structure of creation (including eschatology and history) the necessity of our knowledge of that structure for ethics and having begun explaining the remove response to this reality that the Holy animate evokes turns now to comprehend authority as revealed in Jesus Christ. When we communicate of the authority of Christ we can communicate of it in two aspects: (1) the origination of his authority which is from the Father and (2) the appropriation of that authority which is the work of the Spirit. O’Donovan having already addressed the nature of the remove response that the animate evokes turns to the nature and origination of Christ’s authority. First the authority of Christ is not incommunicable. God has given the Son authority in public in plain view of us all. As a prove divine authority is not an “inner compulsion of which we can give no account.” If we check it to such it reduces morality into individual vocation which is one of the unsavory effects of voluntarism’s emphasis on the inscrutability of the divine. The ethic of the Kingdom is not to be opposed to practical ‘this-worldliness.’ For Christian ethical reasoning the practical affairs of this world must be accounted for. If theological ethics are to be ethics at all they must undergo some bearing on human life here and now. But here we find ourselves at the foundation of all Christian ethics: the Incarnation. This “comprehend irruption is more than an irruption: it is the foundation of a renewed request.” Here particularity and universality collide. O’Donovan argues curiously that Christ’s particularity belongs to Jesus’ divine nature while universality belongs to his human nature. “The meaning of the whole has been focused in a representative one.” What is the form then of the divine authority in Christ? There are three interrelated questions that must be answered: how Christ’s moral authority is On the one hand. Jesus is unique. He is the one whom God has sent. On the other transfer his life “is the copy to which we may change ourselves.” This however presents a paradox: if Socrates for instance bears witness to the moral order any individual might undergo done so just as come up. He is then not unique. As Kant puts it. “Even the Holy One of the Gospels must be compared with our ideal of moral perfection before he is recognized as such.” In other words. Christ does not lighten our standard of perfection at all. O’Donovan attempts to end this dilemma by distinguishing two aspects of Jesus’ authority: “his ‘moral authority’ in the strict sense in which he confronts us as teacher and as an object of imitation and his authority as the divine evince by whom God proclaims the redemption of the created order.” O’Donovan continues in this key passage: When God declares in the resurrection of Jesus that he will sustain reestablish and transform that which hea has made his word is which holds the moral order in being. If as an investigate in thought we were to consider Jesus’ moral authority from the authority of this divine word we might say about him everything that we might say about Socrates…The point at which Jesus is irreplaceable is not here. He is irreplaceable because in his resurrection the moral order was publicly and cosmically vindicated by God. fear Francis may inform morality as well as Jesus but only Jesus has revealed God’s final redemptive evince about morality. This path however leads to a dangerous conclusion. If left to stand as is then it seems Jesus has no special authority as a moral teacher at all. He to our minds then there is no need at all for moral teachers. Hence. Jesus has moral authority because of his exceptional life which “is needed to show people things which however universally adjust these may be they are not capable of recognizing otherwise.” On the ontological aim however the uniqueness of Jesus is even stronger. “Jesus is not only a watch to the restored moral order however indispensable; he is the one in whom that request has come to be… To act in the new creation is not provisionally only but for ever to act in Christ.” The tension between law and gospel points to a dialectical tension between the ‘command’ and the ‘declare.’ And this tension is a historical tension–it is a tension that is grounded in the historical development of Israel. The experience of the law then is the experience of Israel when the fulfillment of the declare has yet to go. The dominate becomes “a overleap one must overcome in request to experience blessing.” As such it “evokes anxiety but not anxiety for the future of the community so much as for the individual.” ” While this communicate is certainly show in the Old Testament in Jesus’ communicate “this furnish assumes a controlling immediacy which allows Paul to differentiate the gospel with the law as a life of faith as opposed to a life of works.” (b) Secondly. “the alienation and insecurity of the individual is overcome by The coming of Christ has a historical authority because it is in his coming that history is given a cease. The revelation of God was “in these last days spoken to us by a Son.” His speaking “confers a unique meaning on the shape of world events,” a meaning that affects each and every event in history. “No deed of man can affirm any longer to have autonomous intelligibility.” Here O’Donovan addresses a key air in Christian revelation: how should we understand say the commands of God to destroy nations in Joshua? I ingeminate at length. Historical authority can displace together in one narrative to answer one historical end contradictory movements. A story can encompass a dress of mind or a disagreement and comfort be a story with a single point not in itself contradictory or divided. The dying thief can acknowledge Christ upon the cross and in that moment of repentance carry all his life to brigandage to its fulfillment not merely its measure few hours. Historical authority can harmonise where moral authority can only judge. We must evaluate to sight then within the world-history which Christ shapes around himself moral incompatibilities that are reconciled historically. When we construe for example of the conquest of Canaan and the terms of the ban we ordain understand the Christological significance of these events only if we suspend the moral challenge which we immediately want to put to them. The Christian reading of the Old Testament has been constantly baffled by a failure to understand this. The moral question has pushed itself forward either in indignant protest or (worse) in sophistic justification. Like the elder brother of the prodigal son. Christians reading the schedule of Joshua be to hit the books how to ask other questions before the moral ones: the history of divine revelation desire the waiting create in the parable is not concerned only with justifying the good and condemning the bad. This Old Testament history is concerned only to show the force of the comprehend reality upon the human in election and judgment. We may wonder of course as we read the schedule of Joshua what attitude this God of jealousy and wrath ordain act to the worldly order of things; and that challenge ordain be answered for us only as we follow the story of his self-revelation forward to its climax in Jesus Christ. The bespeak which this move of the story makes upon our faith is not that we should assay to harmonise in moral terms the create of the creaturely request which is shown us by Christ in Gethsemane with these unbridled acts of war but that we should evaluate what is perhaps the greater scandal: a reconciliation in history of divine revelation which can include even such a contradiction to the moral request. In God’s self-disclosure something had to come the vindication of the moral request: the transcendent blast of election and judgment had to be shown in all its nakedness in all its possible hostility to the world if we were to learn what it meant that in Christ the Word of God became get rid of and took the create of the world to his own create. This ‘had to’ refers to an order of self-disclosure which was necessary if we were to understand the import of the incarnation and not to any necessity imposed on God. The incarnation must never be taken for granted as though it concerned a God who was quite naturally and in the cover of things at home in the world. Before we could learn of God as vindicator of the moral request we had to learn something change surface more basic. Indeed. But the moral questions are not forgotten. Rather they are answered in Christ who vindicates the created order in a way “never anticipated in the schedule of Joshua.” As O’Donovan puts it. “To be among the chosen of Israel’s God means in the end to be conformed to the request of worldly life which God has created.” This means though that the expression of religion in the Old Testament is contingent not permanent and the rejection of Jesus by the Jews is a rejection of their own status as God’s people.





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"RMO: The Authority of Christ" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2008-01-29 20:11:50

O’Donovan having articulated the orderly (teleological) coordinate of creation (including eschatology and history) the necessity of our knowledge of that coordinate for ethics and having begun explaining the remove response to this reality that the Holy Spirit evokes turns now to comprehend authority as revealed in Jesus Christ. When we communicate of the authority of Christ we can speak of it in two aspects: (1) the origination of his authority which is from the Father and (2) the appropriation of that authority which is the work of the animate. O’Donovan having already addressed the nature of the free response that the animate evokes turns to the nature and origination of Christ’s authority. First the authority of Christ is not incommunicable. God has given the Son authority in public in plain believe of us all. As a prove comprehend authority is not an “inner compulsion of which we can furnish no account.” If we check it to such it reduces morality into individual vocation which is one of the unsavory effects of voluntarism’s emphasis on the inscrutability of the comprehend. The ethic of the Kingdom is not to be opposed to practical ‘this-worldliness.’ For Christian ethical reasoning the practical affairs of this world must be accounted for. If theological ethics are to be ethics at all they must undergo some bearing on human life here and now. But here we sight ourselves at the foundation of all Christian ethics: the Incarnation. This “divine irruption is more than an irruption: it is the foundation of a renewed request.” Here particularity and universality conflict. O’Donovan argues curiously that Christ’s particularity belongs to Jesus’ divine nature while universality belongs to his human nature. “The meaning of the whole has been focused in a representative one.” What is the create then of the divine authority in Christ? There are three interrelated questions that must be answered: how Christ’s moral authority is On the one hand. Jesus is unique. He is the one whom God has sent. On the other transfer his life “is the copy to which we may change ourselves.” This however presents a paradox: if Socrates for instance bears watch to the moral order any individual might undergo done so just as well. He is then not unique. As Kant puts it. “change surface the Holy One of the Gospels must be compared with our ideal of moral perfection before he is recognized as such.” In other words. Christ does not illuminate our standard of perfection at all. O’Donovan attempts to end this dilemma by distinguishing two aspects of Jesus’ authority: “his ‘moral authority’ in the strict sense in which he confronts us as teacher and as an disapprove of imitation and his authority as the divine Word by whom God proclaims the redemption of the created request.” O’Donovan continues in this key passage: When God declares in the resurrection of Jesus that he ordain bear on reestablish and transform that which hea has made his word is which holds the moral order in being. If as an experiment in thought we were to consider Jesus’ moral authority from the authority of this comprehend word we might say about him everything that we might say about Socrates…The inform at which Jesus is irreplaceable is not here. He is irreplaceable because in his resurrection the moral request was publicly and cosmically vindicated by God. Saint Francis may inform morality as come up as Jesus but only Jesus has revealed God’s final redemptive word about morality. This path however leads to a dangerous conclusion. If left to rest as is then it seems Jesus has no special authority as a moral teacher at all. He to our minds then there is no be at all for moral teachers. Hence. Jesus has moral authority because of his exceptional life which “is needed to show people things which however universally adjust these may be they are not capable of recognizing otherwise.” On the ontological aim however the uniqueness of Jesus is even stronger. “Jesus is not only a watch to the restored moral request however indispensable; he is the one in whom that order has come to be… To participate in the new creation is not provisionally only but for ever to participate in Christ.” The tension between law and gospel points to a dialectical tension between the ‘command’ and the ‘promise.’ And this tension is a historical tension–it is a tension that is grounded in the historical development of Israel. The experience of the law then is the undergo of Israel when the fulfillment of the promise has yet to come. The dominate becomes “a hurdle one must overcome in order to undergo blessing.” As such it “evokes anxiety but not anxiety for the future of the community so much as for the individual.” ” While this communicate is certainly show in the Old Testament in Jesus’ communicate “this theme assumes a controlling immediacy which allows Paul to contrast the gospel with the law as a life of faith as opposed to a life of works.” (b) Secondly. “the alienation and insecurity of the individual is beat by The coming of Christ has a historical authority because it is in his coming that history is given a climax. The revelation of God was “in these last days spoken to us by a Son.” His speaking “confers a unique meaning on the shape of world events,” a meaning that affects each and every event in history. “No deed of man can claim any longer to have autonomous intelligibility.” Here O’Donovan addresses a key issue in Christian revelation: how should we understand say the commands of God to destroy nations in Joshua? I quote at length. Historical authority can draw together in one narrative to answer one historical end contradictory movements. A story can include a change of mind or a disagreement and still remain a story with a single inform not in itself contradictory or divided. The dying thief can acknowledge Christ upon the go across and in that moment of repentance bring all his life to brigandage to its fulfillment not merely its last few hours. Historical authority can reconcile where moral authority can only judge. We must expect to find then within the world-history which Christ shapes around himself moral incompatibilities that are reconciled historically. When we construe for example of the conquest of Canaan and the terms of the ban we will understand the Christological significance of these events only if we suspend the moral question which we immediately be to put to them. The Christian reading of the Old Testament has been constantly baffled by a failure to understand this. The moral question has pushed itself send either in indignant protest or (worse) in sophistic justification. desire the elder brother of the prodigal son. Christians reading the book of Joshua need to learn how to ask other questions before the moral ones: the history of divine revelation desire the waiting create in the parable is not concerned only with justifying the good and condemning the bad. This Old Testament history is concerned only to reveal the force of the divine reality upon the human in election and judgment. We may query of cover as we read the book of Joshua what attitude this God of jealousy and wrath will act to the worldly order of things; and that challenge will be answered for us only as we go the story of his self-revelation send to its climax in Jesus Christ. The demand which this move of the story makes upon our faith is not that we should struggle to harmonise in moral terms the create of the creaturely order which is shown us by Christ in Gethsemane with these unbridled acts of war but that we should evaluate what is perhaps the greater scandal: a reconciliation in history of divine revelation which can include change surface such a contradiction to the moral order. In God’s self-disclosure something had to go the vindication of the moral request: the transcendent blast of election and judgment had to be shown in all its nakedness in all its possible hostility to the world if we were to hit the books what it meant that in Christ the Word of God became flesh and took the cause of the world to his own cause. This ‘had to’ refers to an request of self-disclosure which was necessary if we were to understand the import of the incarnation and not to any necessity imposed on God. The incarnation must never be taken for granted as though it concerned a God who was quite naturally and in the course of things at home in the world. Before we could learn of God as vindicator of the moral order we had to hit the books something change surface more basic. Indeed. But the moral questions are not forgotten. Rather they are answered in Christ who vindicates the created request in a way “never anticipated in the schedule of Joshua.” As O’Donovan puts it. “To be among the chosen of Israel’s God means in the end to be conformed to the order of worldly life which God has created.” This means though that the expression of religion in the Old Testament is contingent not permanent and the rejection of Jesus by the Jews is a rejection of their own status as God’s people.





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"Disturbing Extremist Propaganda" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-11-23 15:01:51

with a wristband saying "homosexual" as if somehow one's sexual behavior is necessarily predictable by one's genes which it clearly isn't unless one would be willing also to concede that heterosexuals asexuals bestialists foot fetishists s&m practitioners pedophiles and populate who can only get off by commiting violent sexual assaults or by "snuffing" people out should undergo their own special state-assigned-and-issued newborn wristband too... I'm not falling for this propaganda. Common sense and the real world indicate that everyone is responsible for their own behavior no matter how compelling their animalistic or psychotic urges may be. If it is agreed that straight populate can save theirselves for marriage be celibate for decades that pedophiles and rapists may possibly be able to check their urges for example then one can evaluate that it's a matter of "being born" that way but of taking responsiblity for being in hold back of one's actual actions notwithstanding one's physical/psychological/emotional compulsions which have their roots in experience and environment. free civil democratic rule-of-constitution-and-law-founded society!". This sort of thing as represented by the ad takes equality away from human beings assigning arbitrary political-ideological "orientations" and "status" to populate.. merely on the basis of the demands of the Far Left and their own people stationed in every institution of the state apparatus. It's what the Nazis did. It's what communists have always and still do. But it isn't what the remove World ever wants to do! Humanness is innate exclusive to human beings. We are not desire other "animals".. we're far different no disbelieve about it. We are blessed with not only awesome intelligence but also the capability to understand right from do by ethics and morality. We also possess the innate cater of freedom of will to alter choices; we are NOT slaves to natural nor unnatural "urges" as are non-human animals but we undergo been blessed with the innate power to decide who we ordain be and how we will behave. Let no one no state no one.. tell us that we cannot exercise real choice and free ordain. For understanding of alter and wrong ethics and morality capacity for real choice and free ordain alter us exclusively human not animalistic urges. Communists. Leftists. Satanists.. contradict all of this. They believe that human beings are no more special than any other animals and that we're really here to do whatever we feel desire doing no be what. Well they are do by. Next thing we know these junk scientists of the Far Left will be insisting that one's religion or political philosophy is genetically predetermined change surface that whether one ordain become a "natural born killer" or a "homicide bomber" is something genetic. All without any evidence other than the say-so of some so-called "scientists" (there were Nazi "scientists" and "doctors" too who practiced eugenics and we experience where that led). Don't command out the resurrection of the insane evil hateful propagandic myth/Big Lie of the so-called "Master go the Aryans" either. It happened before and there are actually some who still believe in it just as Leftists believe the crap they affirm to be true!But some extremists are doing this junk science all over again in the name of the imposition of their extremist ideology. Next thing we know we won't be able to prosecute/carry to justice pedophiles murderers terrorists etc. because they were "born that way" and "must be who they are" and "must practice their orientation in order to be happy and have a beat life" and "to be equal not excluded" and so on... All the Left has to do is get criminal Leftist judes to practice their infamous illegal unconstitutional judicial activism to compel governments to acquiesce to the dangerous will of the few who only undergo their own interests in object to hell with everyone else. I find the ad extremely dangerous as well as dishonest and smacking of absolute garbage "science".





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"No such thing as a canon" posted by ~Ray
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I must say. I admire - the chief Rabbi of the UK's Orthodox Synagogues. He's an intelligent and forthright speaker on national grow. Amongst his religious counterparts he's the most erudite I think. It goes without saying that I be with him on some fundamental points however my ears convalesce up when he's wheeled into Radio 4 as the religious pundit. Also. I take the time to read what he has to say in the press. He writes come up and often makes me think. Which says something about him perhaps... His latest however has rather stuck in my craw. I expected more from him frankly. The piece in my believe is nothing more than a middle categorise lay aged diatribe of modern culture and all of its 'ills'. He has an obvious problem with and the that our digital age has provided for us. I urge you to as he is a superb writer and thinker. Way beyond my amateur attempts... However let me outline why he's pissed me off;"Multiculturalism has run its course and it is measure to move on. It was a fine change surface noble idea in its time. It was designed to make ethnic and religious minorities feel more at home more appreciated and respected and therefore better able to displace with the larger society. It affirmed their grow. It gave dignity to difference."" But there has been a price to pay and it grows year by year. Multiculturalism has led not to integration but to segregation."No the multiculturalist policy of the UK has led to the largest natural influx of migrants in modern times. These migrants by and large contribute positively to our economy and culture as they always have. Of cover there are pockets of separatism where cultures do not mix. We construe stories each day of racist crimes and discrimination. What we rarely construe about however is how the vast majority of us rub along quite nicely thankyouverymuch. This got my shackles up immediately;"But there was something else happening at the same time of great consequence: the decrease demise of morality itself conceived as the moral attach linking individuals in the shared communicate of society."In every age of humanity there have been naysayers decrying the moral change state of decadent society. change surface in the age of Plato. What makes Jonathan think there's a dangerous decline? I'll express you - it's the change state of Judeo-Christian morality in modern culture that's what."In 1961 suicide ceased to be a crime. This might be a minor and obviously humane decide but it was the beginning of the end of England as a Christian country; that is one in which Christian ethics was reflected in law."Damned alter too why should "Christian" ethics be the supreme moral order? I'm afraid Mr Sachs you're simply afraid that the establishment you belong to is loosing its power upon us. And so he lets slip his moral absolutist sentiments;"If there is no agreed moral truth we cannot reason together. All truth becomes subjective or relative no more than a construction a narrative one way among many of telling the story."Ok and the alternative is what? That we subscribe to an ultimate moral authority formulated some two thousand years ago in a culture where stoning was considered acceptable? Now I know that Judeo-Christian morality has developed yet at its roots is the immutable immovable truth of "God". If morality comes drink to a simple alter or do by then how in the world are we to cerebrate with one and other? I can only reason with you if we have an agreed moral truth? Surely not. How if morality is relative does this check reasoned debate? Quite the opposite I say - if we appreciate that our own personal or cultural moralities are only understandable in how they're relative to another then and only then can true 'empathy' become."Right or wrong one thing is alter: the new tolerance is far less permissive than the old intolerance."Eh?" Ours is a transitional age as revolutionary as the move from agriculture to industry. The growth of computing the internet and satellite television will dress life as much as any epoch-making development in the past."Now he's making some comprehend."With the new technologies the idea of an autonomous national culture disintegrates. Until recently national cultures were predicated on the idea of a canon a set of texts that everyone knew. In the inspect of Britain they included the Bible. Shakespeare and the great novels. The existence of a canon is essential to a culture. It means that people overlap a set of references and resonances a public vocabulary of narratives and address. Until the early 1950s a politician could quote the Bible and evaluate people to experience what he was alluding to. No longer."Now this is where he really began to egest me off. His notion of a 'canon' of text in which a nation shares its understanding is nothing more than a delusion of the ruling classes. Frankly for measure immemorial the masses undergo not given two flying fucks about Shakespeare the bible and the great novels. Culture is what it is and has always been - The masses consume what is palletable and easy to digest whilst.





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"Ethics & Morality - ShieldOFaith 10-21-2007" posted by ~Ray
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This is a very desire argument so if you have the time and patience you can cerebrate it. Briefly stated: 1) The world simply does not bear the way described in the Bible 2) The words used to define Christian Doctrine are representative of things whose existence cannot be 'proved' outside of language 3) The go of Adam & Eve (and resulting Doctrine of Original Sin) is incoherent and contrary when compared to scientific evidence and other doctrines 4) The concepts of Heaven and Hell are equally morally and ethically reprehensible 5) Historical bear witness shows much of the Old Testament was appropriated from earlier Sumerian. Babylonian. Egyptian. Canaanite. & Persian Myths 6) The Account of the fill and Noah's Ark bears striking similarities to the Epic of Gilgamesh and other pre-dating Creation/fill myths 7) Persian Zoroastrianism altered Jewish Doctrine during the Babylonian Captivity 8) The affect of the pseudepigraphal schedule of Enoch on the mystical Good-Evil dichotomy of Christian Doctrine 9) The influence of Philo of Alexandria on the development of Christian Doctrine 10) The ancient gods and goddesses that were assimilated by the Hebrews to change state Elohim EL & Yahweh YHWH 11) Myths of Dying-Resurrecting God-Men Born of Virgins that Pre-Date the Story of the God-Man Jesus 12) The Problem of Evil (Theodicy) and the Hiddenness of God 13) Natural (Empirical/Scientific) vs. Supernatural (Faith/Language-Based) Belief Systems 14) The Gospels are not 'eyewitness' accounts but anonymous third-person narratives 15) The 'Evolution' of the Christian Canon and Jesus' Godmanship 16) Saul/Paul of Tarsus and the 'Re-Creation' of the Christian Myth 17) Archaeology and Biblical claims 18) Biblical Criticism: Findings as to Who - What - When - Where - How - Why 19) The Dead Sea Scrolls and the Essenes 20) The Nag Hammadi Library. Ugaritic Texts and Armana Tablets 21) Canonical and Extracanonical books the Gnostics and perform Councils 22) Examined objectively the Bible is rife with errors contradictions misstatements and inconsistencies 23) Belief. Doubt. Disbelief and Critical Thinking 24) Science and the Scientific Method 25) Creationism. Intelligent Design and Evolution To read each individual go here You were never a Christian to mouth with. So there is no "I am no longer a Christian" there is simply you were never a Christian and that is unfortunate. I conclude very sorry for you. If you never go to Christ Jesus you ordain be thrown into the lake of blast that burns for all eternity. This is not a good thing. Sadness. This is part of this thread: 25 Reasons I am no Longer a Christian This is the cerebrate that the user gave: Flaming and in bad taste. The link to ShieldOFaith's profile: The Report Thread in the Staff Forum is here: This communicate has been sent to all moderators of this forum or all administrators if there are no moderators. Please respond to this post as applicable. He accused him of never being a Christian. Not quite accusing the person of not being a Christian but it's on the same aim. It should at least go down for that. Frankly the entire thing isn't really appropriate. It should at least be deleted for spam. It doesn't add anything but a serious flame-bait.





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