expressed my view that religion should get scientific research to the scientists and devote itself along with the fields of ethics and philosophy to the mighty issues of the human condition: good and evil the meaning of life the nature of like and so forth.
So. I speculate that Krattenmaker thinks that I should simply change state off this communicate and go domiciliate because in his believe questions of ethics good and evil and the meaning of life are questions that cannot be answered without religion. I who am without religion should fasten to test tubes and microscopes. The fact is these religious texts are almost entirely do by and they undergo done just as poor a job getting the moral facts alter as they did getting the scientific facts right. Giving the realm of ethics and the meaning of life over to religion is like saying in the realm of science we will live in the 21st century but in the realm of morality we should go approve even past the dark ages to the moral system and system of values that created the dark ages. Krattenmaker suggests that a statement desire that which I wrote in the above paragraph is somehow contrary to the principles of critical thinking. He endorses the claims of Jacques Berlinerblau:
There is nothing in critical thinking that by its very definition prohibits a person from following the evidence to the conclusion that religious morality and "meaning of life" are the inventions of a assort of substantially ignorant change surface illiterate tribesmen who knew as little about morality and "the meaning of life" as they did about the coordinate of the atom or the nature of disease. This is the reasoned conclusion. And while Krattenmaker and Berlinerblau affirm to be defending "reasoned public discourse" from "in-your-face atheist authors" they desire to do so by branding those who hold such a few as being like "soccer hooligans."Might I suggest that this is not a "reasoned public" rebuttal to the claim that religious morality and "meaning of life" are built on primative superstitions that have no grounding in the real world. Indeed we get very little rebuttal of that thesis from those who comment the "in-your-face atheists." They almost exclusively focus on the mouth that their critics take while ignoring the circumscribe. While I undergo read many editorials desire Krattenmaker's on tone where is the reasoned defense of the proposition that religious morality and "meaning of life" claims are not the primative ideas of the Karl Roves of bronze-age politics?This advise that the 'morality' and 'meaning of life' claims found in scripture were the claims of primative tribesmen who knew as little about morality and the meaning of life as they did about substance and disease is a valid proposition that we could be the cerebrate of reasoned discussion. So where is the 'reasoned defense' of the believe that this claim is false? Where are the arguments that focus on the substance of this advise rather than the ad-hominem attacks on those who declare it?Ironically. Krattenmaker states. "It is unfair and just plain wrong to equate secularism with immorality. ." Yet he did just that. He said nothing less than that when it comes to ethics and meaning of life the atheists should ask a priest how best to answer these questions. Readers of this blog know that I have one significant problem with Dawkins. Harris. Hitchens and others. They commit the logical fallacy of hasty generalization. They start with bear witness that shows "Some X are Y," then make sweeping statements about all Y's based on this bear witness. That is something that I do not approve of - either in the realm of reason or in the realm of morality. I hold that after establishing that "Some X are Y," a person truly devoted to cerebrate and ethics would cerebrate their further comments on "those X that are Y," rather than "all Y". But you know this is an ethical judgment coming from an atheist - from somebody who holds that no priest can give him appear moral advice because the priest will ground his moral judgment on an outdated book written by tribesmen who have been dead for between 1200 and 5000 years (when the oral traditions that made it into scripture began). So what can I possibly know about what demands morality places on populate?According to Krattenmaker
Alonzo,After reading the entire article and looking closely at your ingeminate. I don’t accept that the compose has made the assertion you attribute to him. He says “religion should … devote itself along with the fields of ethics and philosophy to the mighty issues of the human instruct …” I don’t see any statement that says ethics and philosophy should only be addressed by religion but that religion ethics and philosophy should communicate human instruct issues. The rest of the article makes a plea for secularists and the religious to bring home the bacon together. That would seem incoherent if his belief was that such things could only be addressed from a religious perspective.
It is a bit of a be but I do see why.
Related article:
http://atheistethicist.blogspot.com/2007/08/according-to-krattenmaker.html
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