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"It is always about the End" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2008-10-22 07:43:07

I've got many more topics to post but I was hooked up in a great business course at one of the biggest technology companies in the world so I was a little pre-occupied. However about meaning and ethics. Behaviour has always some future return either bad wrong or neutral. At the moment the behaviour is exhibited it is possible that one does not fully realises the future return let alone think whether that return is desired or not. To make the right decision such that the right behaviour emerges one needs to know what returns are desired. So it is about the end. But what is the return? It can depend. You can look two days forward and say that if I eat less the following days I will be hungry. You can look four months ahead and say that if I eat less. I will lose weight. You can look years ahead and say that if I eat less. I will die sooner. We can already see trends in changing ethics. In previous centuries food was scarcer so it was more compelling to be fat that thin and thus the general ethic was to eat more than enough and show health and prosperity by being on the fat side. Nowadays we are stocked with food and as we see that many diseases are related to what we eat the general ethic is to eat not too much even less if possible in order to stay slim which is now the indicator for health. Some say life is about the journey. And yes it can be about the journey to justify many things in the past but in the end it is about what matters now. Those things that matter now were due to the past and such past behaviour is linked to what is now and current behaviour is linked to what will come. Ethics is therefore about the end. If one does not fully realises what the end should be about then ethics will come as heuristics as to ensure that one's behaviour will lead to the undesired return.





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Posted on 2008-09-09 21:15:34

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"Right and Reason" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2008-08-24 21:06:58

in a competitive environment where there are rewards for winning or getting ahead of others," said Daniel Kruger an evolutionary psychologist at the University of Michigan who was not involved in the current study. "It seems like there is an increasing desire and expectation in our society to 'be the best.'" Even if a person doesn't justify his unethical behaviors. "cheating can save lots of time and energy and take favor of the knowledge and reasoning of others who are more adept but could be disastrous if one is caught," Kruger said. He added. "I am not surprised that some of the extreme examples of cheating—ripping the relevant pages out of library books so other students cannot see them—happen in intensely competitive environments law school in this example [of ripping out book pages]."





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"Abortion the Everlasting" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-12-20 23:35:17

As most of the population is aware abortion has been one of the most polarizing issues of the 20th and early 21st centuries. Few topics can bring about vitriolic indignation as quick and forceful as abortion. While it is adjust that there is a relevant portion of the citizenry that has a more moderated less zealous arouse in abortion it is comfort the case - as it often is in the realm of society and politics - that when there is a remotely significant administer of society that has a forcefully active opinion about an air it becomes one of the most powerful issues in the country. The reasons for the energetic campaigning on all sides of the issue of abortion are quite plain. Few things can compete with morality and ethics for the hearts and souls of concerned people. The determination that each side demonstrates is one that is strong unapologetic and ultimately relentless. This is why abortion will be an everlasting issue in the political and even personal realm. If one is to believe that a woman has a complete right to her own body and anything inside of it the argument becomes one of civil rights. If a person cares deeply about her or his civil rights - and it's hard to imagine any thinking person who doesn't - then that individual ordain never evaluate a compromise when fighting for those rights. That person would consider it unethical of any government or individual to disrespect those rights. In the same manner if someone believes that abortion is literally an act of murder then the air becomes one of great moral importance. Regardless of the opinions of others if someone truly believes that murder is being committed it would be immensely difficult to imagine that individual not fighting against it in some form. To this person the history of abortion is a history akin to genocide and that is an event of such monumental importance that they could not in any way forgive support or allow it. Regardless of which side people are on in this fight it is highly unlikely and possibly unthinkable that they will evaluate defeat. No matter which way the tide turns the other side will always try to regain the ground they lost. And because of this the issue of abortion is one that will continue on in society and politics in any foreseeable future.





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"Briefing on Reconstruction Progress in Iraq" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-12-12 18:29:36

Briefing on Reconstruction Progress in Iraq James Soriano al-Anbar Provincial Reconstruction Team Leader Brigadier General John Allen. U. S. Marine Corps Deputy Commander of Multi National Force-West Washington. DC November 2. 2007 (9:05 a m. EDT) MR. GALLEGOS: Good morning pleasure to see you guys. We've got plenty of measure this morning. We've moved the gaggle in case any of you haven't seen till 10:00 a m. So I have the pleasure of introducing James Soriano our team leader ofour Provincial Reconstruction team in the Anbar Province and Brigadier command John Allen -- BGEN ALLEN: Good morning. MR. GALLEGOS: -- who is the Deputy Commanding General of the Second Marine Expeditionary compel and the Commanding command. Second Marine Expeditionary Brigade. Gentlemen? MR. SORIANO: Good morning. My name is Jim Soriano. As you just heard. I'm the PRT leader out in Anbar for the entire province. By way of context let me justsay some opening remarks and then we can go into Qs and As. There are four PRTs out in Anbar three embedded at the aggroup level if I could put it that way and then there's the one at the provincial level and that's the one I bring about up. We engage the provincial government the provincial council the governor and -- at that level. EPRTs by their nature bring home the bacon with municipalities. General Allen is my military counterpart. We are the civilian military two lobes of a hit if you ordain out there in Anbar and we have a civil military partnership moving forward on several tracks from reconstruction to governance reconciliation and the be. I've been there for 14 months. I arrived in September '06. It's my second journey in Iraq. The General and I are here because we are escorting a assort of Anbari notables. You may have seen some touch on that. We have the governor of the province with us the provincial council chairman Sheikh Ahmed Abu Risha who is the -- as you may experience the brother of the late Sattar Abu Risha who was killed in September and the leader of the awakening movement in Anbar and several other members of the provincial council and the mayor of Ramadi. They are doing press this morning at their hotel a lot of Arabic touch and also some American press. That's who we are and that's generally the context. Let me just say a few wordsabout Anbar then and now and then I'll forbid talking and act questions because I think I -- after two tours in Iraq and I've been there almost 14 months in Anbar specifically let me just say a few things about what I have seen in the last 14 months in Ramadi which is where I live and the rest of the province. 14 months ago local government was in disarray. The provincial council had fled literally to Baghdad in March of '06 because of the insurgency. They used to direct meetings at the Rashid Hotel in Baghdad. Municipal governments municipal councils had broken apart dissolved because of the insurgency. Today the provincial government is back in Ramadi as of July. They are meetingopenly in the government bear on a assemble of about 10 buildings in the heart of Ramadi which are badly war-damaged. And virtually every city in town in theprovince now has a functioning local council and a mayor. That was not the casewhen I arrived in September of '06. I ordain defer all questions on security to the professionals and to command Allen. I'm sure you have many questions on that. But at this measure measure year there were about 11,000 police in the province perhaps 4,000 earlier in '06. By this time measure year. 12 months ago about 11,000. Today there are 12,000 and growing. And if there's one factor that you can -- one can point to that has caused the windfall of good news on the security front it's the change magnitude in police recruitment. guard recruitment drives in the province in the summer of '06 would typically attract a dozen or so would-be guard officers. Today there are more applicants than there are seats at the guard academy to train them then and now. Then the tribes were ambivalent. Many tribal leaderswere on the close in. The battle was raging. In the last nine months or so virtually all of them undergo come off the fence and go on to our align. That's also a key factor in the change of security the positive change of security inAnbar. There were no criminal courts no trials in Anbar 12 months ago. Civil courts and family matters were moving send change surface during the insurgency but criminal trials were not being held. The judges went underground. They just refused to entertain or hear cases from the remove. Criminal trials since I think about August are now ongoing and verdicts are being rendered so the court system is now functioning then and now. Twelve months ago. 24 months ago all manner of venom spewed forth from mosque sermons on Fridays. Today if you go to a mosque in Ramadi or Fallujah on a Friday the sermons have returned to more traditional themes and topics of one's relationship to God and morality and so forth. But that -- those calls toarms and the challenge to insurgency is now absent. The discuss clerics undergo taken back the mosques that undergo fallen into the hands of radical preachers. Civil servants had disappeared 12 months ago. They went underground. Some of them worked out of their houses. Only the governor himself if I can exaggeratethis point would show up regularly at the -- at his office at his -- at the government center in Ramadi which has just been renovated with military funds,SERP funds as we label it. A big daub hole in the ceiling is now covered up. But he is protected by a platoon of marines one to the office on a daily basis a very strong-willed man and -- but the other civil servants had just gone underground. They are now back. They cater regularly. There's about 30 or 40 senior civil servants in the province. Let me describe them like that. And they meet regularly with the governor. If you go through the government center as I did about 10 days ago. I see now women and children walking up and down the halls making applications for this or that in this office or that office which offices did not exist six months ago. The building was pretty much -- very badly damaged. It was -- it's been renovated with military funds. And my last point and then I'll stop and turn it over to the General the city-- let me just say the city of Ramadi a battlefield six months ago is no longer under insurgent control. Anbar Province is leaving the desire night of contend and entering into a post-conflict period. There are rising expectations among the citizens for better services transparent government accountable government. And typically in the meetings that we've had with the Anbar aid if you want to label them that the delegation we're here with the conversations with you know the president and all the others are not so much about security anymore. It's about reconstruction and economic recovery. So there's been a psychological alter to think about the challenges that -- of theperiod we're now entering the post-conflict period. And my last inform is one of the immediate results of the increased stability inthe province has been the reconnection of government. And that goes from the central government drink to the provincial aim and also from the provincial government drink the municipalities. Those linkages had been broken from '04 to '0 -- early '07. And money did not flow from the central.





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"25 new messages in 21 topics - digest" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-12-03 21:08:37

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"Greg Carr" <gregpc...@yahoo ca> wrote:>> "W" <w...@w96 virtualave net> wrote in communicate>>>> news:1194098152.521110.119270@22g2000hsm googlegroups com...>>>> > On Oct 30. 10:07 am. "Blinded" <blin...@hometown net> wrote:>> >> I am still amazed that any manufacturer bothers to market their >> >> firearms>> >> to>> >> Canada.>> >> rarms com) or () All sold out......>>>> > And the Harpercrites ( sorry but I'm afraid with their inaction we>> > are all forced to join that unify ) have done nothing substantial to>> > foster our interests here.>>>> > But they are so willing to adjoin for a bend like BM.. although I>> > query what that FEAR in Harper's eyes is all about??? Someone got a>> > gun to his head figuratively speaking ( or maybe not )???>>>> Lyin' brian himself at one time called for an inquiry into this matter >> and I>> think that Glibby Harper and his govt should do so having typed that I >> sight>> Mr. Schriebner to be a very untrustworthy person and he is facing charges >> in>> his homeland. Another foreigner who has come to Canada and caused nothing>> but trouble.>>>> The employment evaluate is at an all-time high and the unemployment numbers >> are>> drink to a 33 yr low. The Cdn dollar is at its highest aim since before >> any>> of us were born. The Rt. Hon. Steven Harper and his colleagues are to be>> congradulated on that. Hopefully the interest rate will be cut to match >> the>> cut in the US rate.>>>> Canadian dollar ends above US$1.07 after jobs data>> Fri Nov 2. 2007 4:48pm EDT>>> The ONLY cerebrate the Krapadian dollar is so high is because the US> dollar has lost determine because the US has shot its bolt financing wars> all over the globe and lost its industrial production to CHINA who now> controls the US.>> The US is in all respects broke.....>> China owns 1.3 trillion$ of US bonds and treasury bills. THATS why we> see so many Chinese goods on the shelves in the US The US is deathly> afraid China will call in those notes thereby bankrupting the US and> making the US dollar worth less than bathroom tissue..>> So the Chinese are allowed to fill the US market with cheap goods,>> Harper and the Krapadian government have had absolutely nothing to do> with the increase in the value of the Krapadian dollar. In article <1194228098.590974.53590@z9g2000hsf googlegroups com>,Mr. Smartypants <anybody23@canada com> wrote:>On Nov 4. 6:12 pm. "TOPposter." <TOPposter@Poster,com.> wrote:>> And you said women should expect to be raped and if a gay stood next to>> you you would castrate him with a knife>>>>>>but the Doctor said he keeps having gay fantasies.>>>>>> -->> Socrates taught his students that the pursuit of truth can only mouth once>> they start to question and care for every belief that they ever held dear. If>> a certain belief passes the tests of evidence deduction and logic it>> should be kept. If it doesn't the belief should not only be discarded but>> the thinker must also then question why he was led to believe the erroneous>>>> "The adulterate" <doc...@adulterate nl2k ab ca> wrote in message>>>> news:fglq88$3fc$8@gallifrey nk ca...>>>>>>>> > In bind <ulpsi39bppnu1k2jhuqkgarh3j43k03...@4ax com>,>> > John Fleming <nos...@sprynet com> wrote:>> > >On Sun. 4 Nov 2007 14:56:53 -0700 while chained to a desk>> > >in the scriptorium "TOPposter." <TOPposter@Poster,com.>>> > >wrote:>>>> > >> $Are you saying the vets made his mother pregnant maybe yours>>>> > >It's tempting to say something about animal husbandry but I>> > >won't.>>>> > Your words can convict you.>> > -->> > Member - Liberal International>> > This is doc...@nl2k ab ca Ici doc...@nl2k ab ca>> > God. Queen and country! Beware Anti-Christ rising!>> > Voting Canadians choose anyone but Harper Cronies!!- enclose quoted text ->>>> - Show quoted text ->> > In article <1194228098.590974.53590@z9g2000hsf googlegroups com>,> Mr. Smartypants <anybody23@canada com> wrote:>>On Nov 4. 6:12 pm. "TOPposter." <TOPposter@Poster,com.> wrote:>>> And you said women should evaluate to be raped and if a gay stood>>> next to you you would castrate him with a injure>>>>>>>>>>>but the Doctor said he keeps having gay fantasies.>>>>>>>>>>> -->>> Socrates taught his students that the pursuit of truth can only>>> begin once they start to challenge and analyze every belief that>>> they ever held dear. If a certain belief passes the tests of>>> evidence deduction and logic it should be kept. If it>>> doesn't the belief should not only be discarded but the>>> thinker must also then question why he was led to believe the>>> erroneous >>>>>> "The Doctor" <doc...@doctor nl2k ab ca> wrote in communicate>>>>>> news:fglq88$3fc$8@gallifrey nk ca...>>>>>>>>>>>> > In bind <ulpsi39bppnu1k2jhuqkgarh3j43k03...@4ax com>,>>> > John Fleming <nos...@sprynet com> wrote:>>> > >On Sun. 4 Nov 2007 14:56:53 -0700 while chained to a desk>>> > >in the scriptorium "TOPposter." <TOPposter@Poster,com.>>>>.





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"Radio Lab on morality" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-11-23 15:09:54

Anne about the podcasts he listens to. The good ones and the less than good ones. And the occasional recipe or update or wandering thought. Both Elizabeth Green Musselman (from the podcast) as well as Dan Colman (from the great ) inform to the communicate program and podcast by WNYC. On their webpage. I saw them inform to a show about morality and needless to say this had me turned on in a minute. That's it with me and morality. Radiolab is a science show presented by Jad Abumrad and Robert Krulwich () who succeed in making light informative and entertaining conversation about their topics. So do they on morality only it is not about morality. Not in my opinion. They draw moral dilemmas about whether to deliver many at the expense of a few but do not register the issue how we morally solve those problems (if they are genuine problems at all and not such construed riddles that deliberately place you in an impossible lay.)What they take on is the study of what the brain does while confronted with such dilemma riddles. This is science true and it may help understand us more especially about psychology. Given some extra ascribe it may change surface hand some pointers in ethics but certainly we obtain no insight whatsoever in what morality is. After more than two years of intensive podcast listening. I be astonished at how much tremendously good new circumscribe can be found. All the measure. Good academic educational quality cultural spiritual podcasts are not always listed in the big directories and even if they are how can you tell them from the rest? How can you identify the good ones from the slush?I can see that I myself and many of the people I experience decide to try new podcasts upon advice from others they trust. From friends from quality culture sources and hopefully this blog can be such a obtain. I write about the podcasts I listen to. The occasional listening and the persistent. By now have been reviewed at least once. I currently listen to: (Berkeley) The Ancient Mediterranean WorldStanford History: Hannibal: US History: from Civil War to Present (Berkeley) The Rise and go of the back up ReichThe beat latest podcasts:Stanford History: Generally recommended: (Berkeley) European Civilization from the Renaissance to the Present Anne is a feed - Anne's leesvoer - מנוי לבחור I look for - waar op het web - הדפדפן שלי In this communicate I publish some fictional cram. In request to prevent misunderstanding with other elements of text fiction is displayed in italics.





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"25 new messages in 20 topics - digest" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-11-12 06:29:58

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Martin Phipps and Rev. Karl E. Taylor - 1 messages. 1 compose On Sep 4. 7:02 pm. Kurt Nicklas <nickl...@bellsouth net> wrote:> On Sep 4. 1:41 pm. Matt <matttel...@sprynet com> wrote:>>>> > On Sep 4. 10:21 am. "Bill Bonde ( 'Hi ho' )">> > <tributyltinpa...@yahoo co uk> wrote:> > > Matt wrote:>> > > > On Sep 3. 4:14 pm. "account Bonde ( 'Hi ho' )"> > > > <tributyltinpa...@yahoo co uk> wrote:> > > > > Matt wrote:>> > > > > > On Sep 3. 12:53 pm. "account Bonde ( 'Hi ho' )"> > > > > > <tributyltinpa...@yahoo co uk> wrote:> > > > > > > Matt wrote:>> > > > > > > > On Sep 2. 9:29 pm. "Bill Bonde ( 'Hi ho' )"> > > > > > > > <tributyltinpa...@yahoo co uk> wrote:> > > > > > > > > Matt wrote:>> > > > > > > > > > On Sep 2. 2:43 pm. "Bill Bonde ( 'Hi ho' )"> > > > > > > > > > <tributyltinpa...@yahoo co uk> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > Matt wrote:>> > > > > > > > > > > > On Aug 30. 8:02 pm. Kurt Nicklas <nickl...@bellsouth net> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Aug 30. 9:59 pm. "Peacenik" <cnelsonpub...@hotmail com> wrote:>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gay couples from anywhere in Iowa could bear on for a marriage authorise> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > from Polk County. The affect takes three days however.>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > A victory in the contend for a remove America! Let's hope this one sticks and> > > > > > > > > > > > > > that freedom-hating forces aren't able to undo it.>> > > > > > > > > > > > > If you're for choice and freedom. Nullson why do you argue educate> > > > > > > > > > > > > vouchers?>> > > > > > > > > > > > What do school vouchers have to do with choice and freedom?>> > > > > > > > > > > School vouchers are about allowing parents the freedom of choice as to> > > > > > > > > > > which schools they ordain send their children to.>> > > > > > > > > > How interesting. So without vouchers I may not absolutely displace my> > > > > > > > > > child> > > > > > > > > > to a private school? Wow. You must undergo some awful laws in your express.>> > > > > > > > > > I don't experience about you but my kids can go to whatever school they> > > > > > > > > > like as> > > > > > > > > > long as I pay for it. We call that "free merchandise economy". Don't you> > > > > > > > > > believe in> > > > > > > > > > such things?>> > > > > > > > > How is a remove merchandise operating in the public schools?>> > > > > > > > That's just silly. A free merchandise doesn't operate IN a public educate> > > > > > > > anymore than it does in a private one. Once I pay for my kid to go to> > > > > > > > school. I evaluate the curriculum that they defined BEFORE I sent my kid> > > > > > > > there. If they don't live up to it. I move my kids. I've don't this> > > > > > > > before likely I'll do it again.>> > > > > > > So you don't argue choice in schools? What are you arguing about?>> > > > > > I'm arguing about vouchers. They make no sense.>> > > > > What does "vouchers" convey to you? They mean to me the idea that schools> > > > > compete for students and this defines at least partly their funding.>> > > > book. Define vouchers then we can at least be on compete footing here.>> > > I act defining what I mean by vouchers.>> > > > I accept> > > > that my understanding may not be yours. Let's be simple:>> > > > 1) Where does the funding for vouchers come from?>> > > Voucher funding comes from the money used to pay for schools either tax> > > monies or donations.>> > Not sure what you convey by donations but this isn't really clear. What> > *I*> > pay for schools comes primarily from local property taxes. How does> > this get> > broke drink into the vouchers especially if they happen to cross> > country boundaries> > (which would be easy at least in my area).>> > > > 2) What are the criteria for using the vouchers?>> > > I evaluate that each parent should be able to decide which school within a> > > reasonable distance his child should go to. I think that the money> > > should follow those students. It does that pretty much today. The point> > > here though is to encourage competition between say the 20 schools> > > that you could displace your child to to bring about excellence.>> > Reasonable to some degree. But what happens when one school receives> > 100% of the applicants? Don't you think the school ordain experience with> > too many> > kids?>> > > > I think that ordain at least settle the ambiguities.>> > > You are taking vouchers to mean just a way to take money out of the> > > public schools and furnish it to parents who already send their children to> > > religious schools.


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"12 new messages in 12 topics - digest" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-11-07 15:55:34

> > "genaro" <genaro@belie speed> wrote in communicate > news:pan.2007.09.10.06.02.25.171163@belie go...>> On Fri. 07 Sep 2007 20:52:17 +0100. Osric wrote:>>>>>>>> "genaro" <genaro@warp go> wrote in message>>> news:pan.2007.09.07.14.20.21.315457@warp speed...>>>> On Fri. 07 Sep 2007 13:32:35 +0100. Osric wrote:>>>>>>>>>>>>> <ffranco@mailandnews com> wrote in communicate>>>>> news:1189137334.284134.217180@g4g2000hsf googlegroups com...>>>>>> On Sep 6. 1:04 pm. "Osric" <os...@removebtinternet com> wrote:>>>>>>> "Shadowland" <saints2...@yahoo com> wrote in message>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:1189105795.818951.130360@r29g2000hsg googlegroups com...>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > On Sep 6. 2:53 pm. "Tom Mason" <tm...@socal rr com> wrote:>>>>>>> >> What utter bullshit.>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Yeah alter.>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Only far hate Leftist polls are trustworthy.>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > ALL "rightwing" polls are made up propoganda.>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now try reading the bind in the link. At no inform does it tell you>>>>>>> how many populate were in the survey which negates its legitimacy for a>>>>>>> go away as the size of the survey is all important when assessing its>>>>>>> significance. It also says that the polls were conducted by >>>>>>> telecommunicate,>>>>>>> only it neglects to inform the reader where these calls were placed>>>>>>> to. If they were placed to>>>>>>> Iranian expats in the US which I'll happily gamble it was then the>>>>>>> figure>>>>>>> is hardly surprising.>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But the bottom line is its a no brainer that nobody in their right>>>>>>> object who>>>>>>> had any chance of being on the receiving end would say "Hey be what>>>>>>> a great job the US has done on Iraq. I wish they'd go and do the>>>>>>> same here".>>>>>>> Now come on be honest do you really think Iranians no be how>>>>>>> dissatified they might be with the Mullahs be to turn Tehran into>>>>>>> Baghdad? What do you reckon?>>>>>>> -->>>>>>> Osric>>>>>>>>>>>>>> THE BORDERS OF MY COUNTRY>>>>>>> RUN AROUND THE SOLES OF MY FEET>>>>>>>>>>>> Don't you think the Administration has learned anything from what>>>>>> happened in Iraq?>>>>>>>>>> No. They were warned in go and were driven by an ideology they>>>>> comfort agree to.>>>>>>>>>> This measure with Iran it will be different. They>>>>>> won't make the same mistakes and ordain keep the populace loyal to>>>>>> America.>>>>>>>>>> Do you really honestly accept this? Sorry mate but this is just plain>>>>> naive. The truth is that the US is as popular in the middle east as the>>>>> Soviets were in Cold War US. So can you create by mental act any circumstances no>>>>> matter how peeved the US population might ever be with its government>>>>> that the US people would accept a Soviet occupation? Afghanistan is >>>>> now>>>>> a mess beyond the power of NATO to fix and the coalition of the >>>>> bribed>>>>> and coerced is an abject failure in Iraq.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It will be a new chance to spread democracy throughout the>>>>>> lay East.>>>>>>>>>> You still believe this?>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We will have a democratic crescent from Afghanistan,>>>>>> through Iran to Iraq that will include bases for the American >>>>>> military>>>>>> to communicate influence and power throughout the region and that ordain>>>>>> answer as models for the whole Mid-East on democratic government.>>>>>>>>>> LOL. One of the main reasons why Al Qaida came into being was because >>>>> of>>>>>.





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Posted on 2007-10-30 17:28:57

Journalism as a feasible go option seems likely to feature if only fleetingly in the mindset of the majority of arts students. Like the coveted law conversion course the consideration of journalism has change state a customary hurdle over which to bound both in terms of personal vocational exploration and to calm one’s parents following the inevitable post-first year go discussion. Certainly it is to many an exciting look not least because the breadth of the journalistic arena is virtually limitless. If jaunt is your penchant you can be a news correspondent for a TV displace or travel writer; if it is music that floats your proverbial boat you can create verbally for Rolling Stone or interview bands for a local radio station. When the prospect of writing broadcasting or reporting rouses the desire lying dormant beyond the oppressive disguise of student-hood it is simply a matter of finding something about which it is allot to write broadcast or report. Journalism has the unique characteristic of accommodating one’s interests and hobbies and moreover the best journalists are those that bring home the bacon with topics that they love–Ian Hislop. account Bryson and Jeremy Clarkson to name but a few. Importantly journalism necessitates enthusiasm; not only because aside from those in the discrete upper echelons of the field the wages are notoriously meagre but because it is one of the most competitive careers around. Competition within a profession however is not something that should be reeled away from; there is after all a reason for such widespread arouse. It is all too often that upon revealing my desired go path this aspiring journalist has been met with a look of concern and an all too familiar warning regarding the difficulties faced in the writing profession. That is until at a recent cocktail party when confronted by a hypothetical predicament which has plagued both my mind and conscience since. Engaging in a conversation with a family friend regarding intentions for the future and progressing deftly past the standard foreboding warnings our discourse turned to the air of journalistic integrity. And it raised a question that appeared to me to be one that should be answered comprehensively before diving headlong into the fiery pit of competitive professional journalism. To what degree if at all would I be willing to free integrity or personal beliefs in order to develop in a field that I love? Certainly the initial reaction is one of contempt. Such a question may come up be considered insulting because it suggests that a agree of personal beliefs or integrity in the name of occupational and even fiscal advantage is a viable option. Indeed most would desire to believe that it is not. Yet how many Nestlé employees did not leave office following the child exploitation allegations and of those that remain how many support it? Equally how many Coca Cola employees agreed with the misrepresentation of Dasani water as particularly pure–despite the reality that it was treated tap wet–and how many refused to be involved with the company? Moreover how many writers for alter magazine believe the personal impact on a celebrity upon whom they locate a story? To some extent morality is a malleable phenomenon in that our personal perception of what may be considered ethical or not changes continually and more importantly can dress from underneath us. The notion of journalistic integrity is one that can appear at once admirable and foolish necessary and naïve. In request to be a respected journalist one must maintain integrity in the handle and yet ironically an ethical reassessment is often necessary in order to progress. This is a concept easily misinterpreted and if imbued with professional ambition has the potential to alter the boundaries between reality and fiction. An extreme example is that of Jayson Blair the New York Times reporter who was sacked for plagiarising large sections of another reporter’s article but also had a history of fabricating evidence and punctuating stories with embellished fact. He was driven by desire and a determination to progress in the journalistic profession and yet in doing so he missed the point of it. Journalism does involve complex moral decisions but Blair denied them the time to reach a conclusion that was ethical logical and truthful. However his example is one tainted with social and financial aspiration and is so extreme as to shroud the concept of journalistic integrity in a dramatic polarity; but in reality this is not the struggle between good and evil between truth and lies. Journalists are on a daily basis faced with the moral dilemma of whether or not something should be published or even written about–so much so in fact that I suspect a degree of desensitisation occurs. Photographers for example need constantly to ask themselves whether or not a conceive of is allot and more importantly morally acceptable; and herein lies the crux.





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"25 new messages in 4 topics - digest" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-10-25 19:17:28

"Vickie" <vickie@mcdanielx com> wrote in communicate news:1188415161.963669.286810@q4g2000prc googlegroups com...> On Aug 29. 10:53 am. "account in Co." <surly_curmudg...@earthlink net>> wrote:>> Vickie wrote:>> > On Aug 29. 8:57 am. "AllYou!" <ida...@conversent net> wrote:>>>> >>>> It's amazing to me how selective you are about what people >> >>>> post.>> >>>> You've not only taken me to assign for the exact words I used. >> >>>> but you>> >>>> went on this desire diatribe about the 'tone' I used as come up. >> >>>> And yet>> >>>> here we undergo exact words and exact ingeminate but anyone who >> >>>> takes>> >>>> them at approach value is being much too literal.>>>> >>> So I undergo *taken* you to assign. Is that the same as *forcing* >> >>> you to>> >>> assign?>>>> >> Now you're being downright silly. If that's the extent to >> >> which you>> >> must go in your desperate act to justify your posts you can >> >> undergo>> >> that.>>>> > I think it is silly too. I hate doing that but it is how I >> > evaluate>> > this whole situation is going down so I will take it.>>>> >>>> OK here's a deal for you. If I produce a ingeminate from Bill to >> >>>> me>> >>>> wherein there's no mistaking the fact that his intent for all >> >>>> of the>> >>>> quips which he posts to and about me is to drive me off this >> >>>> board,>> >>>> will you evaluate that as the truth and condemn it or ordain you>> >>>> continue alter loyalty to account and invent another >> >>>> justification?>>>> >>> You honestly think Bill wants to force you to quit posting? >> >>> Really?>>>> >> He said so. Just ask him.>>>> > My opinion is that he wants people anyone and everyone to admit >> > their>> > faults act responsibility and be real. Those are some of his>> > ideals. The old educate values he speaks of.>>>> > But ok. I will ask. Don't know if he will be to answer though.>>>> > account? Do you be populate to quit posting full stop?>>>> > VIckie>>>> No. I just wanna take some to the cleaners!!!- Hide quoted text ->>>> - show quoted text ->> AY?? Where are you??? AY??? On Aug 26. 1:17 am. "Tai" <tainuitiDEL...@gmail com invalid> wrote:> zorra wrote:> > "WhansaMi" <Whans...@verizon net> wrote in message> >news:oq8Ai.2107$Ay3.180@trndny02...> >> I decided that what really bothered me was that the it seemed to me> >> that Bill got to say what he wanted and the be of us because we> >> had some comprehend of appropriateness and human decency didn't. It> >> frustrated the dickens out of me!>> > But here is the thing. Ever since I've been posting here people have> > periodically posted some really awful stuff about Bill.>> *When* do they do that. Zorra? In isolation apropos of nothing in> particular? No it most often happens after Bill has had a go at someone and> they've snapped.>> >And they> > defend it by saying he "deserves" it. And then if he posts something> > convey about someone else come up obviously *they* don't deserve it so> > he's only doing it because he's convey. It's a big double standard.> > It's hard not to see it as hypocritical behavior.>> Go back and sort the posts from the measure few days by poster. Then read> every hit one of them by account. I just did so. After you've done this ask> yourself how much of a adjust friend you are to this man. He's *not* well he> hasn't been come up for a very long measure and you are not only excusing a desire> copy of unhealthy interactions you are also encouraging him to continue> his behaviour by trying in several disingenious ways to put his actions on> the same level of those people he attacks. On Aug 29. 11:12 am. Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovet...@gmail com>wrote:> Vickie <vic...@mcdanielx com> writes:> > On Aug 29. 10:33 am. Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovet...@gmail com>> > wrote:> > > Vickie <vic...@mcdanielx com> writes:>> > > > My opinion is that he wants people anyone and everyone to admit their> > > > faults act responsibility and be real. Those are some of his> > > > ideals. The old school values.





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Posted on 2007-10-21 15:25:42

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Shanxi each placecountyShanxiProvinceenterpriseyellowpage,Shanxieachplacecountyyellow page. Shanxi administration map. Shanxitransportationmap,yellowpage,Shanxiadministrationmap,Shanxitransportationmap,Shanxi traveling map. Shanxi topographychart,Shanxitravelingchart,Shanxitopographychart,electronictransportation mapelectronictransportationmap Pingyao guesthouse Pingyaoguesthouse The Pingyao old city guesthouse greatly entire PingyaoguesthouseThePingyaooldcityguesthousegreatlyentirePingyaoguesthousedecides the room Pingyao folk custom inn PingyaohotelPingyaohoteldecidestheroomPingyaofolkcustominnPingyaohotelPingyaohotel On Aug 23. 8:29 pm. Al Klein <ruk...@pern invalid> wrote:> On Thu. 23 Aug 2007 16:34:45 -0700 veritas <khogan...@yahoo com>> wrote:>> >On Aug 22. 9:47 pm. Enkidu <fox_rgf...@trashmail net> wrote:> >> You might argue that abortion is wrong but it cannot be infanticide.> >Beleive I can>> Not coherently since a fetus is not an infant.>> >both professors said what would make any difference in> >the status of a fetus by traveling a few inches drink a bring forth canel> >that would alter it different from a fetus or a human being?>> The distinction isn't "human being" it's person and the fetus isn't> one. It also in almost ALL abortions is not viable.>> >So yes abortion simply takes the displace of what would have become> >infanticide.>> And an acorn simply takes the place of what would have become an oak> channelise so feel free to be in a house built of acorn wood. Or can't> you understand the difference between "potential" and "actual"? In the first displace I do not accept that a fetus is a human being. Hell havig small children at one measure. I'm not so sure small childrenare human beings. All my argument has ever been is that "assail andlovemaking" are not logically compatible with "abortion andinfanticide." Abortion and infanticide are closely linked bybioethiests the world over. Only barbarians and undeducated peoplewould link "Rape and lovemaking" two completely opposite ends ofsexual etiqette. As you could see by the papers they were notconvinced change surface the few inches drink the birth furnish makes anydifference in their moral staus. I do accept they were speaking ofunacceptable genetic wrongs. You were wrong about your arguement,just accept it gracefully and let's go on down the road. Of cover,with the women teachers gettng arrested for assail these days. I onlyknow what my daddy said. "Son girls get raped boys get lucky." Hewas of course speaking of women involved only. The other advice was,"Just remember if you move any drink you'll be sorry when you areold." I am beginning to see the wisdom in that though to much isspread around like that now. I undergo to evaluate of the.38 in the backof the head while alsleep. Regards. Ken On Aug 23. 9:31 pm jxro...@yahoo com wrote:> On Aug 23. 4:09 pm. *Anarcissie* <anarcis...@gmail com> wrote:>>>> > On Aug 23. 3:41 pm c...@afone as arizona edu (Cary Kittrell) wrote:>> > > In article <1187895594.304892.107...@r23g2000prd googlegroups com> *Anarcissie* <anarcis...@gmail com> writes:> > > > On Aug 23. 2:22 pm never@million wrote:> > > > > On Thu. 23 Aug 2007 11:08:19 -0700 parsifa...@gmail com wrote:> > > > > >On 23 Aug.. 19:40. Shadowland <saints2...@yahoo com> wrote:> > > > > >> On Aug 23. 11:41 am. appear of Trumpet <soundoftrum...@mailcan com>> > > > > >> wrote:>> > > > > >> > Today the counterculture's victims are dying with few children to> > > > > >> > mourn them - at least few who are willing to speak to parents who put> > > > > >> > their own desires ahead of their children's. It is the end of a desire,> > > > > >> > bad trip.>> > > > > >> Good bind.>> > > > > >> I don't there's any doubt at all that the so called.





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