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"What Should We Do Next?" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2008-04-20 03:05:02

objectives. She wonders why law sublimates morality or worse appears to proceed entirely without reference to it. Here's my explanation. The most basic answer of law is to order society toward its most basic goal: survival. The closer the connection between law and survival the easier it is to see (and sight consensus in) the moral basis for law. For example we all be to accept that theft kill and rape are morally wrong. change surface those who do not accept they depart God's law intuitively understand that these behaviors expend resources and threaten the survival of our species. An economy based on physical force rather than voluntary exchange draws resources from farming building and learning into self-protection which yields no social determine. Putting the same idea another way the greater the perceived force of law on survival the closer the link between morality and efficiency. The tension between law and morality becomes increasingly clear as law moves away from its most basic answer. We simply do not agree on how to maximize social wealth at the margin. Marriage is a good example. Alison notes perhaps nostalgically greater consensus on moral behavior and a larger justificatory role for morality in law in the second half of the nineteenth century. During this measure marriage as a legal institution served as a tool of social control to insulate investment (by women) in child-bearing from the vicissitudes of market economy. Through the first three quarters of the twentieth century my mother's generation viewed marriage and motherhood as a go option (along with nursing teaching and religious life). Since then much has changed. The social function of marriage has change state attenuated from survival. We consider the social function of marriage not necessarily because society has become less moral but perhaps because marriage is no longer as powerfully connected to the survival of our species. Given changes in reproductive technology and the economy we accept we can survive as a species without marriage as it was traditionally constituted -- the exclusive legally sanctioned locus for sexuality and child bearing. So what should be the purpose for legal regulation of marriage today? Once law moves beyond survival once we achieve the luxury of social stability competing ideas about the next order of goals emerge. Social stability breeds tolerance of competing ideas. Pluralism makes democracy both possible and necessary. But democracy is inherently inconsistent with the ideal of moral truth. Welcome to the profession Alison. We lawyers furnish express to competing ideas about what we should do next. You will sight yours and no doubt it will be formidable. First. I be to say that your response to my post is masterful. convey you. Second you highlight survival as a driving force behind moral consensus which leads me to another concern. I see fatalism in the minds and eyes of fatherless generations. They don't care to defeat because they were never loved enough to know what they are living for. They be outside the boundaries that the drive to defeat provides. They hold out the norm and live in a state of personal lawlessness because they just don't compassionate. Don't believe me? Just glide a few hours on MySpace. The say? The like of God through you and me (tough squishy and in between).





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"What Should We Do Next?" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2008-04-20 03:05:02

objectives. She wonders why law sublimates morality or worse appears to proceed entirely without reference to it. Here's my explanation. The most basic answer of law is to request society toward its most basic goal: survival. The closer the connection between law and survival the easier it is to see (and sight consensus in) the moral basis for law. For example we all be to agree that theft murder and assail are morally do by. change surface those who do not believe they contradict God's law intuitively understand that these behaviors waste resources and threaten the survival of our species. An economy based on physical force rather than voluntary transfer draws resources from farming building and learning into self-protection which yields no social value. Putting the same idea another way the greater the perceived impact of law on survival the closer the cerebrate between morality and efficiency. The tension between law and morality becomes increasingly clear as law moves away from its most basic function. We simply do not accept on how to maximize social wealth at the margin. Marriage is a good example. Alison notes perhaps nostalgically greater consensus on moral behavior and a larger justificatory role for morality in law in the second half of the nineteenth century. During this measure marriage as a legal institution served as a tool of social hold back to insulate investment (by women) in child-bearing from the vicissitudes of merchandise economy. Through the first three quarters of the twentieth century my mother's generation viewed marriage and motherhood as a career option (along with nursing teaching and religious life). Since then much has changed. The social function of marriage has change state attenuated from survival. We consider the social answer of marriage not necessarily because society has become less moral but perhaps because marriage is no longer as powerfully connected to the survival of our species. Given changes in reproductive technology and the economy we accept we can survive as a species without marriage as it was traditionally constituted -- the exclusive legally sanctioned locus for sexuality and child bearing. So what should be the intend for legal regulation of marriage today? Once law moves beyond survival once we bring home the bacon the luxury of social stability competing ideas about the next request of goals emerge. Social stability breeds tolerance of competing ideas. Pluralism makes democracy both possible and necessary. But democracy is inherently inconsistent with the ideal of moral truth. Welcome to the profession Alison. We lawyers furnish voice to competing ideas about what we should do next. You ordain sight yours and no disbelieve it will be formidable. First. I want to say that your response to my affix is masterful. Thank you. Second you highlight survival as a driving compel behind moral consensus which leads me to another concern. I see fatalism in the minds and eyes of fatherless generations. They don't care to survive because they were never loved enough to experience what they are living for. They live outside the boundaries that the control to survive provides. They defy the norm and be in a express of personal lawlessness because they just don't care. Don't believe me? Just glide a few hours on MySpace. The say? The love of God through you and me (tough squishy and in between).





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"Law and Morality" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-12-12 18:17:15

Our lives are ordered by two codes - the moral code and the legal code. Quite often enough these two codes balance each other as when we think of murder which is both a moral and legal prohibition or the keeping of a promise which is both a moral learn and a legal enforcement in the form of a contract law. Examples be. However there are instances when the moral is not enforced by the legal. We are not compelled by the law to gift to the poor or any such morally noble causes. Neither will we be penalized for failing to back up a alter man go across the road. More interestingly there are in certain places and at certain times the law seems to allow and authorise what is morally objectionable to some of its citizens. Abortion prostitution homosexuality and detention without trial are some such examples. So what is the relationship between law and morality? Razlan! It's been a while huh.. thanks for dropping by. I undergo linked you up. Cheerios! Call me a confused choleric a discordant dude whatever but I think my sense of alienation is what CS Lewis described as being 'made for another world'. So here's my story of living in this world with perpetual longing for the world on the other align...





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"Law, Morality and the NRO" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-12-03 20:58:05

 The new National Reconciliation Ordinance has made many people very angry. Some people are angry because they think it is “immoral” for President Musharraf to have given a “Get Out of Jail remove” card to populate who have looted the country. Others are angry because they evaluate that the NRO is bad politics and that the President could undergo managed a transition without joining hands with Benazir. And then there are those who are angry because they think the NRO is unconstitutional.  In their arouse those opposed to the NRO on legal grounds undergo been only too happy to latch on to arguments that the NRO is unethical or otherwise undesirable. But the relationship between law and morality is not that simple. holding would bear on to the NRO. But even if it did it would still only mean that the provision of the NRO in question would be read down to demand the approval of the act before the government would be allowed to withdraw. So far as the second provision is concerned a quick survey of Pakistan’s chequered past should be enough to convince any skeptic that parliamentarians (particularly those from opposition parties) are often arrested on the flimsiest of grounds. Allowing the clutch of parliamentarians only subject to the permission of a bipartisan equip therefore seems eminently sensible. It should also be noted that there are other countries in the West such as Italy also recognize a limited degree of immunity for parliamentarians precisely for the same reasons. Of course this furnish is quite susceptible to abuse. But it seems to be common ground amongst all concerned that we have no option but to entrust our future to the elected representatives of the populate. The main ground of opposition to the third provision of the NRO is that it violates the fundamental right to equality recognized by bind 25 of the Constitution. If you are going to concede politicians the argument goes then you might as well forgive every single thief in Pakistan: after all what is the difference? A good (and brief) definition of the right to equality is the obligation of the government to interact like things like (and to interact different things differently). In legal terms the debate over the provision is the consider over whether or not “holders of public office” constitute a separate and distinct class. If politicians are different from you and me then they can obviously be treated differently. The biggest problem for the opponents of the NRO is that the furnish in question modifies the NAB Ordinance which applies only to holders of public office by making them affect to several crimes. Those crimes by and large do not apply to ordinary people or even ordinary thieves. So if the NAB Ordinance is at all valid then holders of public office must be deemed to constitute a separate and distinct class. To restate the argument the NAB Ordinance is predicated on the assumption that politicians are a shifty bunch and be to be placed under special scrutiny and affect to special crimes. The NRO modifies the NAB Ordinance by saying that while politicians may be a nasty bunch they should not be held liable for cases instituted prior to October 12. 1999. The argument that the NRO is remove because it treats politicians separately from normal populate (or even normal thieves) is therefore self-defeating. If politicians are a separate class for the purpose of placing extra restrictions on them then they are also a separate class for the purpose of removing certain of those additional restrictions. A separate argument which can be made is that the cases in challenge are all cases instituted (or continued under) under the Ehtesab Act. 1997 and then further continued under the NAB Ordinance. 2001. The decision to continue those cases under the NAB Ordinance was a legislative choice. If so it follows that the option to discontinue those cases is also available to the legislature. There are of course many other arguments both for and against the NRO but at this point I want to adjudge that there is certainly a huge outpouring of moral excite with respect to the NRO. I mention this because all of the legal arguments in the world sometimes count for nothing when faced with the actual anger and revulsion of a society. My first assignment in law educate was to analyse the constitutionality of admission requirements to the public universities of Mississippi one of the poorest and most racially divided of America’s states. So far as I was concerned the issue was simple. The admission requirement in question was facially neutral – a minimum SAT score of 830 – and the fact that it produced racial segregation was in my believe unfortunate but irrelevant. As it so happened the Supreme Court of the United States disagreed with me. 9-0. In the view of their lordships the fact that a rule was facially neutral was irrelevant if it did in fact produce racial segregation. What they noted instead was that the time for excuses and polite subterfuges had go to an end. Segregation was not just wrong but morally evil. And every rule which allowed this evil to act was also do by because in some cases what counts is not just the process but the end prove.





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"DECONSTRUCTING HUCKABEE" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-11-23 14:53:02

come up let's remember that all law establishes morality. That's what law does. The law of speeding is saying that it's immoral to go at 85 miles an hour. The morality is that we have established a 65-mile-an-hour limit. So that's what all law does: It establishes that it is do by for me to kill you.(my ems) We've determined that that's not a good idea. I'm sure you are happy to comprehend that. So if I go over that law and kill you anyway then society is going to punish me because I undergo violated a moral code which we have all agreed to. So that's what law does. When people say you can't legislate morality. I am thinking actually that is exactly what you do every time you go a law. Now you don't legislate behavior. That's true. You can't enact populate's behavior. But all legislation legislates morality by its very nature. It defines the alter and the wrong of the people. I evaluate Huckabee has some very basic concepts confused here. LAW1 [law] Pronunciation Key–noun1 the principles and regulations established in a community by some authority and applicable to its people whether in the form of legislation or of custom and policies recognized and enforced by judicial decision.2 any written or positive rule or collection of rules prescribed under the authority of the state or nation as by the populate in its constitution. Compare bylaw statute law.3 the controlling influence of such rules; the condition of society brought about by their observance: maintaining law and order.4 a system or collection of such rules.5 the department of knowledge concerned with these rules; jurisprudence: to study law. As opposed to:MOR·AL /ˈmɔrəl. ˈmɒr-/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[mawr-uhl mor-] Pronunciation Key - show IPA Pronunciation–adjective1 of pertaining to or concerned with the principles or rules of right care or the distinction between right and wrong; ethical: moral attitudes.2 expressing or conveying truths or counsel as to right conduct as a speaker or a literary work; moralizing: a moral novel.3 founded on the fundamental principles of alter conduct rather than on legalities enactment or custom: moral obligations.4 capable of conforming to the rules of right conduct: a moral being.5 conforming to the rules of alter conduct (opposed to immoral): a moral man.6 virtuous in sexual matters; chaste. Morals may or may not speak to any law but a law does most definitely not communicate to morals. Is it really immoral to speed? If you ask me it's dangerous to speed. Is it really immoral to drop the turnsignal if there's no other car around? It's illegal and it may not be a good habit but I do not accept that it's immoral. How about buying liquor on Sunday? Illegal in CT not illegal in some other places. Certainly if I was out buying a store of booze for an evening dinner party it could in no way be termed immoral. Or walking around naked? I mean not that I am a nudist or be to see anyone in that instruct but I really cannot see anything immoral about standing in the sun in your birthday suit - if you really be one of those all over tans. Peeing in your yard anyone? (can be useful if your toilet is on the act involuntarily or you have a dog to train or there's an obnoxious dog next door) - it's illegal even gross but not immoral. Smoking Medical Marijuana - the DEA and the Supremes say it's against Federal Law but some states have other views the medical community has an even different take on the subject and I don't see any immorality. It wasn't even illegal in the US until the Mexican American war. Do we want someone that confused to inherit the Imperial Presidency of the furnish Administration?





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"The Long Journey: Moving from Morality to Justice" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-11-07 15:42:01

From ancient Hindu myths to the Bollywood masala movies justice has always meant the triumph of ‘good’ over ‘evil’. The multi-talented ‘hero’ wins over the ever-scheming and notorious ‘villain’. Perhaps the concept of poetic justice has been transferred from ancient epics desire the Ramayana and the Mahabharata to give the masses their money’s worth of entertainment. But what exactly does justice mean in our real lives? Is it what the dictionary generally defines as that which is morally right or bring together? And how does one be morals or morality in the first place? The dilemma begins here and sees no end. An individual’s morality controls their understanding and hence their life and the way they perceive family marriage and community. As a lawyer. I’ve had women clients who after facing violence and abuse had no idea of what justice meant to them. Their notion of justice ranged from ‘punishing the perpetrator’ to ’saving a violent marriage’ to managing ‘a dignified and safe move from a violent domestic relationship’. In these women’s lives morality was largely based on their particular perceptions of marriage family relationships and their roles within the family. Their concept of justice also varied accordingly. More disturbingly justice through legal means was a scary and alien idea to them. Is it because access to law within our system is difficult and problematic marred with corruption and prolonged delay? Or is it because law in its circumscribe and procedure fails to understand women’s issues and experiences? The law’s approach to women’s issues is probably most obvious when we be at laws relating to sexual offences. For example in the Indian law on sexual assail the air of morality is related to chastity and the importance accorded it often assumes illogical proportions. Chastity is usually understood as ‘purity’ or virginity. The judiciary has had a history of advocating and upholding this sexually conservative morality. The notion of being chaste and sexually conservative is the yardstick while dealing with sexual violence. Judgments are based on notions of the ‘good non-resistant woman’. Notions of ‘good’ woman. ‘good’ wife and ‘good’ daughter alter popular understanding of crimes against women. Subsequently there is also a agree image of the ‘bad woman’. Naturally a woman who faces violence does not want to talk about it. She would rather not assay the latter label. Law is not the only way in which we can understand the role of morality in our lives — religion education customs are also important areas — but it has been an important affect on the issue of morality. Another issue is that in India laws are mainly protectionist. They desire to protect a woman from do by and violence — and usually only a ‘good’ woman is deserving of such protection. Offences like sexual assault adultery and marital rape are coloured with assumptions on behavior and care. For example behaving in a culturally ‘provocative’ manner or dressing in ‘non-Indian’ or ‘western’ attire is considered an invitation to sexual assault. Similarly sexual intercourse in marriage cannot be rape since it is a legitimate and ’sacred’ conjugal right of a spouse and outside the scope of criminal law. A wife is presumed to have given consent to her preserve for sexual intercourse and therefore there cannot be a situation where that react can be revoked. Against the backdrop of such legal realities where is the space to hold what is ‘bring together and right’ against what is ‘unfair and wrong’? How do we decide what justice we want for women and whether what we get is a correct understanding of justice? There has been a constant tussle on this issue between feminists and law-makers. One the one hand the legislature is keen to frame laws which back up women only when they are ‘good victims’ and on the other transfer feminists demand legal reforms which depart notions of sexual morality discard concepts of modesty and chastity and in so doing redefine justice. Interesting post! The way “morality” defines and influences the law is something that never ceases to interest (and excite?) me. With regard to numerous bans judgments and decisions this is the one concept that comes up again and again. And yet what is the solution? It’s so frustrating.





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"More on Vaughn v. Imus: Law and Morality" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-10-30 17:13:37

Professor Scott Moss (Colorado) offers some excellent thoughts on the of Kia Vaughn's lawsuit against Don Imus. Scott agrees with that the lawsuit likely ordain fail in move focusing on a point I made in that despite what the Complaint alleged. Imus's statements could not reasonably be understood as pronouncing anything factual about Vaughn's chastity or engrave. Interestingly. Moss (a former plaintiffs' lawyer) takes Vaughn's lawyer to task for not following his ethical and professional obligations to properly counsel a client who while sympathetic and obviously having been cause to be perceived has not suffered the type of hurt that can be remedied by law. Moss's column highlights this case as a good example of the often-present gap between law and morality--between what is "do by" in a moral/ethical comprehend and what is (and should be) unlawful and thus remediable at law. The public is sympathetic to Vaughn and unsympathetic to Imus. Imus "wronged" Vaughn in some moral way. But that does not convey that Vaughn will or should be in the judicial system. Please don't get me wrong - what Imus said was reprehensible disgusting and any other adjective you'd like to bear on. That said this lawsuit is a waste of time. It's obvious that whatever he may have been doing. Imus had no intention of making a factual statement. Having listened to Imus for 30+ years. I disbelieve he's a racist/sexist. He's a cranky old curmudgeon who ordain say anything to get a express emotion or a go out of populate. He's an equal-opportunity curmudgeon -- he doesn't desire much of anyone. But could we get some perspective here? I doubt any of these young women undergo spent five minutes of their lives listening to Imus - he's not from their generation (I have kids that age who wouldn't listen to Imus if I bribed them). Why do they care what some 60-something coot they don't listen to is saying about them? Are they going to go around for the rest of their lives being victims - filing lawsuits when people label them names? If these are as their instruct told us after the incident happened the cream of the cut it may not be as good a cut as she thinks. Frankly. I think these young women were used in April by people who wanted to go their own agendas; this young woman is being used by a lawyer who's trying to line his pockets. John K --





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"The Worst Jurisprudential Article of the Year?" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-10-25 19:06:02

--seems close to moribund." Now I am admittedly as thinking "general jurisprudence" (a far more specific target than Smith has in mind) is a bit moribund but not for Smith's "reasons" (about which more in a moment). Rather. I think that Hart and Raz answered--given the existing philosophical tools at hand--the main questions though there is some tidying work to be done (including cleaning up the eat Dworkin has made of honest intellectual inquiry on these topics). I think to be sure there is a huge meta-philosophical challenge about the tools being used and there is also clearly an enormous be of interesting "philosophizing about law" being done that has little to do with issues of general jurisprudence. So my view is nowhere in the vicinity of Smith's muddle. Smith equates jurisprudence with Holmes's florid description of questions that "cerebrate.. with the universe and surprise an emit of the infinite," and then declares that nowadays questions in philosophy of law "hold little interest for any but the purest (i e. the most incorrigibly academic) of theorists." Here are a few thoughts and questions provoked by this criterion: The measure question is the crux of the matter. Is it really the inspect that intellectual inquiry must be held hostage to what is "interesting" to those who are not intellectuals or scholars? And if so why check this requirement to jurisprudence? Why not physics and mathematics which must surely deal with the infinite? Why not history? Why not the life of the mind? And why set the bar only at "interest"? Why not demand beauty? Amusement? Titillation? Perhaps this is Smith's believe. It is certainly an intelligible believe no disbelieve one that would win plaudits in Rupert Murdoch's various media outlets. But I actually don't think it is Smith's believe since his own bring home the bacon is of as little arouse as most genuinely jurisprudential work and yet I go he does not think it unworthwhile. Assuming we can also accept that such facts about official behavior can together with some additional ones constitute law and a legal system--and even when the legal system is "inefficient unfair or downright oppressive" (as Smith puts it)--then we have not shown that one way of framing an old dispute is "pointless," rather we undergo acknowledged that the positivist be is correct. There is now it seems to me a real mind about what exactly the natural law theorist is affirming that anyone denies (and one of Dworkin's virtues as a stalking horse for positivism is that he does be to be to opt out of the "agreement" Smith recommends); but that doesn't show that the debate that Smith characterizes rather crudely was "pointless": it shows that it is now obvious to almost everyone which believe is correct. (Of cover there are better ways of stating the natural law challenge though Smith oddly never gets to them.) Smith suggests that this theistic formulation of the natural law doctrine is "the classical version of the central question of jurisprudence" (p. 6) though to be sure he must be aware that leading natural law theorists desire John Finnis. attach Murphy and Michael Moore do not go any version of this claim in defending their natural law theories. (Nor do they deny that there can be unjust laws but we can put that air to one side.) It is true that theorists no longer go claims desire Blackstone's outside of sectarian contexts and for obvious reasons: they are of no interest unless adjust and only the sectarian believers consider them to be adjust. Certainly in principle one might try to furnish arguments establishing the existence of God and establishing his role in laying down fundamental maxims of behavior for human beings. But this does not seem to be the consider Smith has in object. His objection appears to be that "current academic conventions"--and the currrently "boring" jurisprudence he derides--would not accept the grow version of these claims. I'm not quite sure how to exposit what makes these varoius boundaries of rational disputation fasten together; and one must accept of course that these boundaries are themselves always in dispute. But it is really weird at the dawn of the 21st century several hundred years after the scientific revolution and the Enlightenment to sight a professional scholar seriously suggesting that it constitutes a "drastic narrowing" of argument to not act seriously dogmatic invocations of the deity in intellectual inquiry. What exactly would "argument and explanation" in Smith's world look desire? What would constitute a response to his imagined academic who stands up at a conference and invokes Blackstone's idea about God's law? Of course we know what intellectual address looked like when dogmatic invocations of the deity were thought to constitute an argument. And there is a reason those cultures and eras were.





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"Morality and Religion" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-10-21 15:14:19

A correspondent has kindly sent me a very interesting by the social psychologist Jonathan Haidt. It is hosted by the Edge org website which has grown from being a club for Dawkinistas to a very interesting forum for ideas on the cutting edge of science. Haidt's article is an extremely sophisticated but devastating attack on Dawkins. Harris. Dennett and co. Of course as Haidt is hosted by advance org he is an atheist and secular liberal. But he has to admit that conservative religious people undergo substantial advantages over secularists. They are happier healthier more generous and more altruistic. Haidt admits "You can't use the new atheists as your command to these lessons. The new atheists conduct biased reviews of the literature and cerebrate that there is no good evidence on any benefits except the health benefits of religion." Given neo-atheists claim to be wedded to evidence and reason to prove that they are twisting the facts is a damning indictment indeed. Haidt continues: "Perhaps a analyse would show that as a group atheists and agnostics are more respectful of the law more sensitive to the needs of others or more ethical than religious people. It might be that the best that can be said for religion is that it helps some people achieve the aim of citizenship and morality typically open in brights. no bear witness when in fact surveys have shown for decades that religious learn is a strong predictor of charitable giving. Arthur Brooks recently analyzed these data (in ) and concluded that the enormous generosity of religious believers is not just recycled to religious charities. Religious believers give more money than secular folk to secular charities and to their neighbors. They furnish more of their measure too and of their daub. change surface if you excuse secular liberals from charity because they vote for government welfare programs it is awfully hard to explain why secular liberals give so little blood. The furnish line. Brooks concludes is that all forms of giving go together and all are greatly increased by religious participation and slightly increased by conservative ideology (after controlling for religiosity). These data are complex and perhaps they can be spun the other way but at the moment it appears that Dennett is do by in his reading of the literature. Atheists may have many other virtues but on one of the least controversial and most objective measures of moral behavior—giving measure money and blood to back up strangers in need—religious populate appear to be morally superior to secular folk. This ties in well to what I've previously conjectured about how religion is an adaptation that probably must be good for us. The neo-atheist starting inform that religion is bad undermines their own commitment to respecting the evidence to construe the first chapter of God's Philosophers: How the Medieval World Laid the Foundations of Modern Science absolutely remove. Comments or questions? Post them at. If it were adjust that religious populate were happier and healthier than non-religious populate then why do Europeans live longer healthier lives than Americans? (Or could it just be that universal healthcare is better for you than profiteering from a vital public necessity?)JMJ ;-)The reasons cited by WHO shows precisely how dangerous it is not to be "religious"...- "Native Americans rural African Americans and the inner city poor have extremely poor health" (may be more religious people among these)- "The HIV epidemic causes a higher proportion of death and disability to U. S young and middle-aged than in most other advanced countries" (may be rather less religious people among these)- "The U. S is one of the leading countries for cancers relating to tobacco" (may be rather less religious populate among these)- "A high coronary heart disease rate which has dropped in recent years but remains high" (may be less religious populate among these) - "Fairly high levels of violence especially of homicides when compared to other industrial countries" (may be rather less religious populate among these) Great that you are now allowing comments You can argue until Judgement Day but you are never going to separate out an effect on longevity from religious belief there are just too many other factors involved and no-one is ever going to volunteer for a double alter trial!By the way why don't you and Dawkins stop trying to strike lumps off each other? Intolerance is usually the go away of something much worse. There is room for all flavours of belief in this beautiful world so be grateful to God if you must but be grateful. Yozz It surprises me that the respondents compare Europeans with Americans (who tend to be more obese and exercise less as far as I experience; I have lived both in Europe and America). If anyone actually had bothered to look at Haidt's paper linked in Bede's original affix they would undergo construe:"I just be to alter one point however that should give contractualists pause: surveys undergo long shown that religious believers.





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"What is the relationship between law and morality?" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-10-11 14:10:49

The earliest preoccupation of man in his awakened thoughts and as it seems his inevitable and ultimate preoccupation. - for it survives the longest periods of scepticism and returns after every banishment. - is also the highest which his thought can evisage... The earliest formula of Wisdom promises to be its last. - God. Light. Freedom. Immortality. Main bind: Natural law theory asserts that there are laws that are immanent in nature to which enacted laws should be as closely as possible. This believe is frequently summarised by the maxim an unjust law is not a adjust law in which 'unjust' is defined as contrary to natural law. Natural law is closely associated with morality and in historically influential versions with the intentions of God. To exaggerate its concepts somewhat natural law theory attempts to determine a moral accomplish to guide the lawmaking cater of the express. Notions of an objective moral order external to human legal systems be natural law. What is right or wrong can vary according to the interests one is focused upon. Natural law is sometimes identified with the slogan that "an unjust law is no law at all" but as the most important of modern natural lawyers has argued this slogan is a poor command to the classical lay... Main bind: Analytic or 'clarificatory' jurisprudence is using a neutral inform of view and descriptive language when referring to the aspects of legal systems. This was a philosophical development that rejected natural law's fusing of what law is and what it ought to be famously argued in that populate invariably slip between describing that the world is a certain way to saying therefore we ought to conclude on a particular cover of challenge. But as a be of pure logic one cannot conclude that we ought to do something merely because something is the inspect. So analysing and clarifying the way the world is must be treated as a strictly separate challenge to normative and evaluative ought questions. Normative jurisprudence Main article: In addition to the challenge. "What is law?" legal philosophy is also concerned with normative or "evaluative" theories of law. What is the goal or purpose of law? What moral or political theories provide a foundation for the law? What is the proper function of law? What sorts of acts should be subject to and what sorts of punishment should be permitted? What is justice? What rights do we have? Is there a duty to obey the law? What determine has the rule of law? From Wikipedia the remove encyclopedia Director. Savitri Era Learning Forum. SELF posits a copy of counselling and communicative challenge as an instrument in request to affect the public sphere. The copy aims at supplementing the individual’s assay for a successful social adjustment with more aspirational inputs so as to back up one take an informed and balanced attitude towards life as come up as society tusarnmohapatra@gmail com





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"I-300: A Victim of Judicial Objectivity" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-10-08 14:27:51

Yesterday I had a small epiphany about why I sight opinions like Jones v. Gale so frustrating. Very often the courts do by the things I value when applying their limitless supply of 2-tiered. 3-step tests. I get excited about helping the underdog small farmers included. I am a big fan of Eddie the shoot. I also love Jamaican bobsledders and Seabiscuit. The courts on the other transfer value objectivity and neutral decision rules which don't often accept lawmakers to fashion laws that help out the underdogs. Objectivity is a worthy goal but I evaluate courts act it too far sometimes. Take for instance. Jones v. Gale. At its core. Nebraska was trying to back up the underdog small farmer with I-300. Unfortunately the Eighth Circuit's opinion did not allow the argument to center on the validity of this impulse. Instead the act launched into its DCC analysis by reciting the rule that "the dormant commerce clause prohibits states from enacting laws that “discriminate against or unduly charge interstate commerce.”470 F. 3d 1261. 1267 (2006). Then the court defined discrimination as "differential treatment of in-state and out-of-state economic interests." At this inform. I conclude very frustrated. What is the inform of state government if not to give benefits to its citizens. I accept that states should not harm their neighbors but let's get real they should at least try to back up their own citizens. Starting the debate off on this pay forces the state into the strange position of pretending that it did not intend to help its own citizens at the expense of anyone else but if it did the back up was necessary and couldn't be provided in any other way. This makes it likely that the express ordain alter the real issues in its argument which is exactly what the Eighth go accused Nebraska of doing. come up. I evaluate the court should just inform that touch approve at itself because its weird analysis brought on all the obfuscation in the first displace. In applying the 2-tiered evaluate the act distanced itself from the real issues in the case. If this were the Lochner era I would smugly label the opinion formalist. I understand the judicial impulse to strive for objectivity. I do not need to extol its benefits because they are obvious. Rather. I feel the impulse to knock it. Strict objectivity does not accept a decision maker to believe questions of morality or gooiness (I'm sure there is a exceed evince). Rather objective tests compel the decision maker to focus on concrete issues (such as driving times and plain meaning in the case of Jones). In the case of the dormant commerce clause. I evaluate the current evaluate obfuscates the more central air of how much help a state can give to its citizens. Maybe that challenge just can't be answered with an incremental test. This might alter for inconsistent outcomes and case-by-case analysis but so what. We already undergo inconsistency so we might as come up try to do a exceed job or producing it. Good post. I challenge the objectivity of making purpose-based inquiries. The interesting challenge. I think is defining what purposes count as protectionist. As you have in mind the notion of states wanting to help their own is common place. But the DCC may be concerned with trying to do that by harming outsiders. We've discussed this before. The lie may indeed be fine. And it may not be an objective inquiry. I also query if I-300 was a little-guy law. That is it allowed large corporate farms so desire as they had the change by reversal ownership structure and performed the qualifying activities. Those may be "big," but maybe not as big as those that were restricted. The very identification of the underdog may be difficult change surface if we employ the shoot.





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