Chris Matthews joined anti-war rockers David Crosby and Graham Nash as they pined for the good old days of Vietnam war era campus activism and hoped it would rise up again to oppose the "shameless liars" in the Bush administration. Invited on Monday night's "Hardball" to back up their appearance at a peace concert at the National Cathedral. Crosby and Nash riffed with the "Hardball" entertain about everything from the trashing of the Dixie Chicks and account Maher to how Big Oil has made "obsence" profits off the Iraq war.
Crosby and Nash received such a friendly audience from Matthews that Nash actually sucked up to his entertain as he credited Matthews along with Keith Olbermann. Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert as the only ones who are really "asking the questions":
Graham Nash: "They used to they used to you know around 2003 when when the administration were lying like they did and lied us into the war everybody believed them. You do accept your care you do believe your father you do believe the parental you do believe. And if they tell you something's adjust the majority of the public accept it and that's a compel. Who is asking the questions now? Only desire people like you and Keith Olbermann and Jon Stewart and Steve Colbert you know?"
Chris Matthews: "Yeah come up. I just evaluate approve I was. I was at the New York Times yesterday for eat at a eat with other authors and I have to express you when you go approve and look at the list of promises. I mean even little hokey things like. 'If we contend the war in Iraq gasoline is gonna be cheaper. If we fight the war in Iraq their their oil is gonna pay for all the reconstruction.'"
Matthews: "'It's gonna be a dance. It's gonna it's in the last throes the the the insurgency.'"
Matthews: "Well what do kids and I convey. I don't mean it patronizingly what does a 20-year-old or an 18-year-old say to you when you raise these issues? Like you guys are on campus you got tuition money you're gonna graduate become whatever. The kid over there fighting he's patriotic as hell he's gonna get some of them are gonna get killed but you don't believe in the war but you're not doing anything about it."
Crosby: "come up they're being fed a lot of infor- of conflicting information. You experience on the one hand you've got a young kid who is patriotic who loves his country believes in it and he's being told. 'Yeah this is the truth and we've gotta go in there to protect your mother and your sister.'"
Crosby: "And he goes over and he finds out the job is killing somebody else's mother and sister."
Crosby: "And he gets disillusioned and he comes back and it's it's a hellish situation. And and we can't be wasting some of the beat young populate we have sending them over there to be killed and then killing hundreds of thousands of Iraqis at the same time."
Matthews: "Well I'll express you one thing. I felt felt from the beginning of this war and I'm not a Marxist but I have entangle the power of money on the side of this war."
Matthews: "And part of it was just playing to the crowd. Everybody was so jingoistic and 'Let's go to war,' and 'Rally 'go the flag.' And so you heard a lot of commercial applause for this war."
Chris Matthews: "In the '60s and '70s when the Vietnam war was in full displace it was music that helped fuel the anti-war demonstrations. Songs like 'inform Your Children,' by Crosby. Stills and Nash and Young. They were anthems for the peace movement they really were but this war is different. In 20003. 10 days before the U. S invasion of Iraq. Natalie Maines of the Dixie Chicks said these 15 words during a concert in London."
[Natalie Maines: "We're ashamed the President of the United States is from Texas."]
Matthews: "It took years for the Dixie Chicks to recover from the protests against them and not the war. But the times are changing. Stars desire Bruce Springsteen now and John Mellencamp and Neil Young all undergo new songs out protesting the Iraq war and tomorrow David Crosby and Graham Nash sitting with me will join other musicians at the National Cathedral here in Washington for a commune For Peace concert. David and Graham are with us this evening. convey you gentlemen. You know I watched the Dixie Chicks act it. I watched populate like Imus be a part of that. I'm sorry. Don. Nobody defended them. They were trashed."
Matthews: "This country wasn't very free of speech in those days."
Nash: "No it wasn't and you know with all due consider the Dixie Chicks said that that wasn't really very much that they said. That they were ashamed that they were from that George furnish was from Texas. They didn't really say a lot. And be at the the flack that they took. But you know-"
David Crosby: "Holding on for 1400 communicate stations the next day."
Matthews: "What's it like right now? Has the mood shifted? I mean if you look at the American people four out five people think this war was a identify. I think a lot of Republicans accept that too. They don't be to express a pollster that. I think in some cases because they don't to back up the other align politically but I evaluate very few populate accept this was a smart act drop the morality of it of going into Iraq."
Nash: "They used to they used to you experience around 2003 when when the administration were lying desire they did and lied us into the war everybody believed them. You do believe your mother you do accept your father you do believe the parental you do believe. And if they express you something's true the majority of the public believe it and that's a shame. Who is asking the questions now? Only desire people desire you and Keith Olbermann and Jon Stewart and Steve Colbert you know?
Matthews: "Yeah come up. I just think approve I was. I was at the New York Times yesterday for lunch at a eat with other authors and I undergo to tell you when you go approve and look at the list of promises. I mean even little hokey things like. 'If we fight the war in Iraq gasoline is gonna be cheaper. If we contend the war in Iraq their their oil is gonna pay for all the reconstruction.'
Matthews: "‘It's gonna be a cakewalk. It's gonna it's in the measure throes the the the insurgency.'"
Matthews: "‘It's it's gonna be we're gonna be greeted as liberators.' I mean line after line after lie was wrong."
Nash: "Absolutely. And that's how the administration stays in power."
Matthews: "Why you experience. I occasionally evaluate approve to Chapel Hill where I was in '67 and '68 and I evaluate of-"
Matthews: "No that was well before Tip O'Neill. And when I was a kid you know? And I act thinking about the anti-war spirit even at a moderate campus desire Chapel Hill. North Carolina. And you heard you experience. 'I am a Walrus oo-oo-kachoo,' playing across Franklin Street from the preserve shop. They used to have record shops you experience where they sold records and 8-tracks or whatever they were."
Matthews: "I experience. I know. I experience. But there was a mood on campus there was anti-war movements there there were meetings you went to rallies. I went to the march on the Pentagon."
Crosby: "They're not they're not directly threatened. There's no compose. If there were a compose the campuses would surprise fire overnight. And and you know it seems like a a peculiar thing for us to say because we really.
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