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"Atheist vs. Theist: Atheists say morality is possible without God....." posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2008-08-24 20:51:05

Atheists say morality is possible without GodBy CHARLES COLSONBreakpointPublished October 26. 2007One of the biggest obstacles facing what's called the "New Atheism" is the issue of morality. Writers like Sam Harris. Richard Dawkins and Christopher Hitchens undergo to persuade people that morals and values are possible in a society that does not believe in God. It's important to understand what is not in doubt: whether an individual atheist or agnostic can be a "good" person. Of course they can just as a professing Christian can do bad things. The air is whether the secular world view can give a basis for a good society. Can it motivate and inspire people to be virtuous and generous?Not surprisingly. Richard Dawkins offers a "yes"—grounded in Darwinism. According to him natural selection has produced a moral sense that is shared by all people. While our genes may be in his words "selfish," there are times when cooperation with others is the selfish gene's beat interest. Thus according to him natural selection has produced what we call altruism. Except of course that it is not altruism at all: It is at most enlightened self-interest. It might explain why "survival of the fittest" is not an endless war of all against all but it offers no cerebrate as to why someone might give up his life or even his lifestyle for the benefit of others especially those whom they do not even know. Darwinist accounts of human morality bear such little resemblance to the way real people be their lives that the late philosopher Michael Stove an atheist himself called them a "slander against human beings."Being unable to account for human altruism is not enough for Sam Harris author of earn to a Christian Nation. In a recent debate with Rick Warren he complained about Christians "contaminating" their altruistic deeds in places like Africa with "religious ideas" like "the divinity of Jesus." Instead of rejoicing at the alleviation of suffering he frets over someone hearing the Gospel. In response. Warren pointed out the inconvenient (for Harris that is) truth: You won't find many atheists feeding the hungry and ministering to the sick in places desire Africa or Mother Teresa's Calcutta. It is precisely because people accept in the divinity of Jesus that they are willing to give up their lives (sometimes literally) in service to those whom Jesus calls "His brothers." And that's why my colleagues and I spend our lives ministering in prisons. In contrast the record of avowedly atheistic regimes is shall we say less than inspiring. Atheist regimes like the Soviet Union. Red China and Cambodia killed tens of millions of people in an effort to establish an atheistic alternative to the City of God. For men like Stalin and Mao people were expendable precisely because they were not created in the image of a personal God. Instead they were objects being manipulated by impersonal historical forces. One atheist understood the moral consequences of his unbelief: That was Nietzsche who argued that God is dead but acknowledged that without God there could be no binding and objective moral order. Of course the "New Atheists" deny this. Instead they unconvincingly argue that you can have the benefits of an altruistic. Christian-like morality without God. Nietzsche would laugh—and wonder why they don't make atheists desire they used to. procure (c) 2007 Prison Fellowship. Without doubt there have been horrendous acts committed by populate and countries through out history but to group atheistic citizens with "murderous regimes" only serves to bear on the lack of any possible understanding of what makes a person moral in the first place. A society dictates what is considered moral. Make no mistake.. an atheist can have morals and values without definition by a God._________________"God helps those that help themselves." Rather than get into the usual arguments of moral relativity and cognitivism. I'd just like to point out that moral realism can't exist with a God either (at least in the terms that Xians like to believe it does). The divine command theory is ultimately an appeal to authority and thus not a reliable source for finding truths. It doesn't explain where the morals God communicates are coming from and essentially we follow his rules for the same reason we follow the laws of man: fear of penalty. That's not morality that's just threats and submission._________________"I wish I never get so old I get religious."-Ingmar Bergman Im not sure how you can assort together unbelievers with atheistic murderous regimes as if some how because they are unbelievers and so are we we are going to be to kill and mame everyone like the murderous regimes. We have nothing in common with them other than a lack of belief. And that seems like a strange way to group people. I convey you wouldnt group together all people who dont desire the color green and somehow say that they all are anti-semetic womanizers._________________"You do cognise you are slowly contributing to the death of the English language." Atheist just lack a belief in any god or gods. The failure or crimes of communists. Maoists or Satalinists were not that they removed religion from society but that they created an unquestionable belief in the state. Just like the Nazi's did and today like North Korea and the 'Dear Leader'(remember the current state continue of North Korea has been dead for 13 years) or Iran's theocracy these are states that place authority of express above the individual. The article also ignores the low crime and divorce rates among atheists something family value theists have been trying to achieve for years. It also states as fact that you don't see many atheist devoting there lives to help the poor and then use Mother Theresa as an example of a altruistic Christian. Where's the money Mo'T? They do it to get a free pass to heaven not for the divinity of JC. Atheism also lacks any infrastructure such as the Catholic church which use the poor and needy to fill the collection coat let's strip the Vatican walls and see how much medicine we can buy. Has this guy also never heard of Bill and Melinda Gates. Also analyse out for numerous examples of people who helped the less fortunate throughout history. Also the recent bind about non-religious doctors being more charitable with there measure than those that identified themselves as religious. Atheists do a lot for societies in and out of their own. A secular society would feel and act just as responsibly to the poor as a Christian society. Only with a bit more accountability and a greater awareness on issues such as HIV prevention. I wouldn't worry too much though as this article is from the Florida Baptist Witness. _________________Emo Philips "When I was a kid I used to pray every night for a new bicycle. Then I realised that the Lord doesn't work that way so I stole one and asked Him to forgive me." To flip things around. I don't understand how you can have an ethical society that believes in a clearly absent absolute good. I know that theists will say that in the absense of an absolute good populate can only do what they think is right but that's way better than doing what you think is wrong or not thinking at all. Good needs a frame of reference and secular humanists use humanity. Theists use fantasy which just seems grossly unethical and doomed to failure. Isn't it better to constantly refine and improve eithics and make progress towards a better good than to just furnish up and pretend there's an absolute good? In a very real sense morality is unethical._________________Everytime someone says "I don't believe" another god dies. My issue with morality and the theism v atheism argument is that it appears that the argument appears endless with one side trying to gain moral high ground over the other. To me what theists are suggesting is that willful ignorance is better for society so we best all take that route. It bypasses the atheist argument that there is simply no evidence for god._________________'Here lies the body of Mary Lee; died at the age of a hundred and three. For fifteen years she kept her virginity; not a bad record for this vicinity. ' This argument is silly especially as the new scientific studies on animal behavior come out. They just had one recently that showed chimps have empathy to others and can be altruistic. Did I miss some memo about chimps adopting a religion?_________________I want it (religion) to be like bowling. It's something some people will enjoy.. and that families will apply together... It ordain be perfectly harmless as long as we don't elect our politicians on the basis of their bowling score. PZ Myers If theists but more specifically Christians and Catholics hold morality in such high regard I'd like to pose a question;Since the vast majority of air breathing wet drinking mammals on this planet consider incestuous behaviour to be not only genetically problematic but also very morally unethical what was Cain doing mounting his own care and the resulting offspring heard moaning and groaning behind the willow bushes?_________________You can pray to a tree it doesn't mean the seasons will change because you believe in the leaves. The problem I have with Colson's argument is that theists specifically Christians run into the same dilemma regarding morality as atheists: their morals are decided by their self. If they "decide" to believe as many claim they do then they are relying on their own thinking and comprehend of what is true trusting in their own sense of right and wrong when determining it's right to believe in God and choosing to agree with the morality as laid out by their religious texts. They can't really get around that they decided what is right when they chose to believe. If they do not decide to believe but believe because God somehow makes them believe then their morality is nothing at all just a mechanistic reaction to some sort of force no more laudable than a rock's falling to the earth in response to gravity. I think most of us have a sense of right and wrong and theists falsely claim this either as evidence of or the result of the existence of a god. Heh. I still recall with anger a medical mission I almost went on. A bunch of people went on a mission trip to the Amazon. They had gotten donations for drugs and equipment. I wanted desperately to go but I was under a assure that overlapped the trip by several days and couldn't get out of it. I am so glad that I couldn't go. When they returned. I talked to some of the people who went. They had a lovely time. They treated tons of people in villages along the Amazon.. then showed them "Passion of the Christ" at night. Most of the villagers had never seen a movie before. They were told that the medical supplies and treatment were thanks to Jesus. The villagers were taught about the bible and Jesus. I don't know what I would have done if I had gone. I think I probably would have been left behind in one of the villages. I knew a church was involved but I never suspected that they would use such tactics. It really pisses me off that these "holierthanthou's" claim to be so altruistic when they apparently are only doing such things to move their faith._________________Newly inducted member of the Sib Fan Club That's exactly why I don't fund missions run by any church they all end up doing it. Though probably not without showing a 2 hour movie glorifying torture. Doctors without Borders is a secular organization if you wish to aid people in third world countries._________________I want it (religion) to be like bowling. It's something some populate will enjoy.. and that families will enjoy together... It will be perfectly harmless as long as we don't elect our politicians on the basis of their bowling score. PZ Myers This matter should be easily resolved with a few moments thought. Question 1: has the world in command change state more or less religious over measure 500 years?If you are not sure about the world try thinking about whether Europe and America (the western civilisation) has become more or less religious over the last 500 year? Question 2: Over the measure 500 years have we improved or worsened in the way we interact each other?A moments reflection on both these questions reveals how religion really affects our morality and consiquentaly how we treat each other._________________"Isn't it enough to see that a garden is beautiful without having to believe that there are fairies at the bottom of it too?" - Douglas Adams It's funny that should be mentioned. Alleviation of suffering? I might more appreciate their efforts if it weren't for their own selfish desire to turn more people towards their belief instead of just genuinely helping those people. Perhaps in their twisted minds it's acceptable to brainwash poor uneducated starving individuals and usurp their right to personal belief with bribery but I find it rather conflicting. While I'm glad there are people helping. I find it drink alter evil to use their poverty try and win points w/ God. They do it to make people believe them and win them over with aid how is that moral? My preserve wanted to contribute to our sister in law's charity push to back up a church group in Africa while I like my SIL - I refused. I told him I was uncomfortable supporting something that I felt took advantage of the situation. I instead researched several different africa/south america charities and only donated to one that assured me that it did not do missionary work they simply assisted with clothing food and health/job training. No preaching. They actually just wanted to help not just gain another point in their basket for their God so they could go to heaven. Pathetic. If morality in the Christian comprehend means doing your best because you're afraid or because you be the reward of heaven or because you feel you're doing something good that's been instructed by your GOD for you to do then no - we don't have morality as atheists. When I do something good volunteer give to charity help someone in need - it's because I genuinely want to back up not because I'm getting a tax write off for my soul. Which motives are more sincere.. honestly?_________________"History is not history unless it is the truth." - Lincoln To be fair. I'd be willing to bet that most christian missionaries would be working with the poor whether or not they were theists. I wouldn't think that if a radical de-conversion happened they'd suddenly slough off their responsibilities and go sip pina coladas by a pool for the rest of their lives. Of course some of them ordain be assholes with nothing but conversion in mind but most will probably just be wanting to back up populate albeit in an exploitative manner. Remember as Christians they don't experience any exceed._________________The say is 420 - ten times exceed than 42! To be bring together. I'd be willing to bet that most christian missionaries would be working with the poor whether or not they were theists. I wouldn't think that if a radical de-conversion happened they'd suddenly slough off their responsibilities and go sip pina coladas by a pool for the rest of their lives. Of cover some of them will be assholes with nothing but conversion in mind but most will probably just be wanting to help people albeit in an exploitative manner. Remember as Christians they don't know any better. I do agree with that which is actually why the arguement in the article posted is so ridiculous. I do think it's hypocricital of others to have the assumption that these populate came up with the idea of charity by themselves for themselves - but people without belief for some reason can't do the same. They do charity work because their book tells them too it's hard to say what they would do without having been told or urged to do so through their beliefs so it's really hard for me to say. I have to hope some would simply because I DO know plenty of atheists and non-religious folk who do plenty of giving and charity work without the need of prompting from a book or preacher to get started._________________"History is not history unless it is the truth." - Lincoln





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""Almighty" concepts - Morality and the State" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2008-04-20 03:10:37

"It [the State] has taken on a vast mass of new duties and responsibilities; it has move out its powers until they penetrate to every act of the citizen however secret; it has begun to impel around its operations the high dignity and impeccability of a express religion; its agents change state a displace and superior caste with authority to bind and let go and their thumbs in every pot. But it comfort remains as it was in the beginning the common enemy of all well-disposed industrious and decent men." - H. L. Mencken. 1926 (found in the beginning of "Our Enemy. The State" by Albert J. Nock)Where exactly exists the need for a State? What about morality – the monster that never fails to go away? Who really needs to be policed? The weak and the foundation-less. If one lacks the knack of seeing things as they are or the virtue (dislike using this evince here!) of keeping things to oneself one loses the fundamental ability of self-governance. An external authority should be show to fit the role of a unify of spectacles. I for one accept with Nietzsche that each man should find his own categorical imperative (I do undergo my disagreements with several of his inconsistencies but possess a soft corner for his ability to make moustaches feature…and that in itself is worthy). Although Kant was quite “revolutionary” (I apply to relativism here) compared to Hobbes in so far as to say that the power to apply unlimited rights should neither belong to the chosen ruler (a representative of the State) nor the citizens (whom the ruler represents) in hindsight he was not. Kant would have been a democrat in today’s world – that perfect “liberal” representative of the bourgeoisie (not by bring forth but by his "politics". He called "democracy" despotism since executive cater is "elected" even though it might not be the "choice" of all. Kant favoured separation of executive and legislative cater. Bear in mind things then and now are far different. Kant's "republican" favouritism does not evince he would be a "republican" now. Meanings have diversified split and changed). Nietzsche despised democratic institutions and saw through the fill - which is not to say I side with the misunderstandings of him that changed the cover of history. Hegel saw the ideal State but by all accounts he was misunderstood too – the fundamental quality of greatness. The one person who radically altered my perspective was Proudhon that representative of the downtrodden who walked all over Communism and Capitalism. To him one was “exploitation of the rich by the poor” and the other “exploitation of the poor by the rich”. Also he changed the way I thought about income tax. Max Stirner the brilliant anti-Hegelian and exchanger of diatribes with Marx shook my world too with “The Ego and His Own”. The political liberalism bit is comfort the most brilliant exposition of the illegality of the State. Amidst readings of Bakunin. Kropotkin pamphlets. Godwin’s fantasy. Rocker anarcho-syndicalists and the radical left. I also ventured into the greatness of Albert J. Nock (“Out Enemy. The State” is still quite relevant. Substitution of the absolutist Church of the lay ages with the State was quite an ingenious act by the so-called “liberals” who only switched power from one representative of the elite to the other). Murray Rothbard and the anarcho-capitalists. The point is – a man who does not think for himself and act according to his own categorical imperatives needs external universal laws for self-preservation. Unfortunately this resembles the majority and that is why executive cater is increasing every day dissent easily suppressed and the so-called “activists” diverting their attention to trivial issues. In America close to 50% support the Democratic party and therefore a music album that criticizes the government or a schedule that bashes the war in a “comfortable” way is inherently conservative for it preserves the status quo – i e close to half remain Democrats and the other Republicans. Nock was right as was Phil Ochs (check out his “In Concert” lp for his small bit before “Love me. I’m a Liberal”). As to morality an individual has absolutely no right to compel his version of it on another. This also extends to the way one spends one’s income – no one can decide it on their behalf. There is however one subtle thing in Morality. Though I accept in its relativism as to differences in individual beliefs things dress when two individuals interact for mutual benefit or get tied up in a relationship (working or personal). It should be a categorical imperative that each person should not victimise the other in projecting his/ her versions of it. For example there can be differences in opinions between a male and female entering into wedlock or a long-term relationship. However no categorical imperatives exist as to the tolerance of those opinions. Each one is remove to tolerate the perspectives of the other or to sight the same intolerable. If one shows just the side the other likes to see i e change his/ her version of the categorical imperative with the bushel intend to deceive then this is an example of immorality. Such a person affirms the be for a government or a protective institution like marriage - for if authority of that ilk does not exist the person would affect the lives of others or make them miserable. Factors desire illiteracy poverty and affluence veering on decadence also go into play. The moral (pun intended/ unintended like Schrodinger’s Cat) is – A man who observes analyzes and finds his own truths (or at least constantly attempts) needs no external authority to exercise the “common” good. Buddhism’s exposition of this simple thing hints closest to anarchy (not the oft misunderstood interpretation of the word as “chaos”). Limits are overrated – except when they apply to the express.





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""Almighty" concepts - Morality and the State" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2008-04-20 03:10:15

"It [the express] has taken on a vast crowd of new duties and responsibilities; it has move out its powers until they come in to every act of the citizen however secret; it has begun to throw around its operations the high dignity and impeccability of a express religion; its agents become a displace and superior caste with authority to attach and loose and their thumbs in every pot. But it still remains as it was in the beginning the common enemy of all well-disposed industrious and decent men." - H. L. Mencken. 1926 (found in the beginning of "Our Enemy. The State" by Albert J. Nock)Where exactly exists the need for a State? What about morality – the monster that never fails to go away? Who really needs to be policed? The weak and the foundation-less. If one lacks the knack of seeing things as they are or the virtue (dislike using this evince here!) of keeping things to oneself one loses the fundamental ability of self-governance. An external authority should be present to fit the role of a unify of spectacles. I for one agree with Nietzsche that each man should sight his own categorical imperative (I do undergo my disagreements with several of his inconsistencies but possess a soft command for his ability to make moustaches feature…and that in itself is worthy). Although Kant was quite “revolutionary” (I resort to relativism here) compared to Hobbes in so far as to say that the power to exercise unlimited rights should neither be to the chosen ruler (a representative of the express) nor the citizens (whom the ruler represents) in hindsight he was not. Kant would undergo been a democrat in today’s world – that ameliorate “liberal” representative of the bourgeoisie (not by bring forth but by his "politics". He called "democracy" despotism since executive power is "elected" even though it might not be the "choice" of all. Kant favoured separation of executive and legislative power. feature in mind things then and now are far different. Kant's "republican" favouritism does not evince he would be a "republican" now. Meanings undergo diversified split and changed). Nietzsche despised democratic institutions and saw through the fill - which is not to say I side with the misunderstandings of him that changed the course of history. Hegel saw the ideal express but by all accounts he was misunderstood too – the fundamental quality of greatness. The one person who radically altered my perspective was Proudhon that representative of the downtrodden who walked all over Communism and Capitalism. To him one was “exploitation of the rich by the poor” and the other “exploitation of the poor by the rich”. Also he changed the way I thought about income tax. Max Stirner the brilliant anti-Hegelian and exchanger of diatribes with Marx shook my world too with “The Ego and His Own”. The political liberalism bit is still the most brilliant exposition of the illegality of the express. Amidst readings of Bakunin. Kropotkin pamphlets. Godwin’s conceive of. Rocker anarcho-syndicalists and the radical left. I also ventured into the greatness of Albert J. Nock (“Out Enemy. The State” is still quite relevant. Substitution of the absolutist Church of the middle ages with the State was quite an ingenious act by the so-called “liberals” who only switched cater from one representative of the elite to the other). Murray Rothbard and the anarcho-capitalists. The point is – a man who does not think for himself and act according to his own categorical imperatives needs external universal laws for self-preservation. Unfortunately this resembles the majority and that is why executive power is increasing every day dissent easily suppressed and the so-called “activists” diverting their attention to trivial issues. In America change state to 50% give the Democratic party and therefore a music album that criticizes the government or a book that bashes the war in a “comfortable” way is inherently conservative for it preserves the status quo – i e close to half be Democrats and the other Republicans. Nock was right as was Phil Ochs (analyse out his “In Concert” lp for his small bit before “Love me. I’m a Liberal”). As to morality an individual has absolutely no right to compel his version of it on another. This also extends to the way one spends one’s income – no one can decide it on their behalf. There is however one subtle thing in Morality. Though I believe in its relativism as to differences in individual beliefs things change when two individuals interact for mutual acquire or get tied up in a relationship (working or personal). It should be a categorical imperative that each person should not deceive the other in projecting his/ her versions of it. For example there can be differences in opinions between a male and female entering into wedlock or a long-term relationship. However no categorical imperatives exist as to the tolerance of those opinions. Each one is free to allow the perspectives of the other or to find the same intolerable. If one shows just the align the other likes to see i e change his/ her version of the categorical imperative with the bushel purpose to deceive then this is an example of immorality. Such a person affirms the need for a government or a protective institution like marriage - for if authority of that ilk does not exist the person would trouble the lives of others or alter them miserable. Factors like illiteracy poverty and affluence veering on decadence also come into play. The moral (pun intended/ unintended like Schrodinger’s Cat) is – A man who observes analyzes and finds his own truths (or at least constantly attempts) needs no external authority to apply the “common” good. 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"Humouring Nietzsche" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2008-01-29 20:07:29

I see myself as one of the young lonely and aimless persons in a Haruki Murakami novel."populate are crazy and times are strangeI'm locked in tight. I'm out of rangeI used to compassionate but things have changedLot of water under the bridge. Lot of other stuff tooDon't get up gentlemen. I'm only passing through"Bob Dylan sings about us. Nietzsche's complete quotes revealedGod is dead..... because that blonde King of Jews was crucified wasn't he ?Insanity in individuals is something rare - but in groups parties nations and epochs it is the rule..... because how else do you inform English Fotball Season. Only sick music makes money today..... as seen from the new Britney Spears music videoThe visionary lies to himself the liar only to others..... guess who I am. In heaven all the interesting populate are missing..... ever since Adam Sandler played the Devil's Son. Talking much about oneself can also be a means to conceal oneself..... that's why American Presidents talk about terrorists. The man of knowledge must be able not only to like his enemies but also to hate his friends..... because the former don't mooch off my cigarette stash. One must have a good memory to be able to keep the promises one makes..... uh; I drop my point here. Not by wrath does one blackball but by laughter..... die Seinfeld die you show about nothing. What does not destroy me makes me stronger..... so lets continue surfing channels. To drop one's intend is the commonest form of stupidity..... you do acquire now how I died of mental illness. Man is the cruelest animal...... Mommy can I have a cookie yet ?What is done out of like always takes place beyond good and evil..... so evaluate me as your create Luke Skywalker. Plato is boring..... so am I after 100 odd yearsMorality is displace instinct in the individual..... claimed Dubya Bush after winning elections. We are always in our own company..... now where's Waldo ?Is man merely a mistake of God's? Or God merely a mistake of man's?..... don't identify my predicament for philosophy. When you stare into the abyss the abyss stares back at you..... because we didn't have video games in our time. Be careful when you fight the monsters lest you change state one..... but otherwise avoid reading too much into Anne sieve's Mythologies. Poets are shameless with their experiences: they exploit them..... now only if I could end into publishing.





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"Humouring Nietzsche" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2008-01-29 20:07:29

I see myself as one of the young lonely and aimless persons in a Haruki Murakami novel."populate are crazy and times are strangeI'm locked in tight. I'm out of rangeI used to compassionate but things undergo changedLot of water under the bridge. Lot of other cram tooDon't get up gentlemen. I'm only passing through"Bob Dylan sings about us. Nietzsche's end quotes revealedGod is dead..... because that blonde King of Jews was crucified wasn't he ?Insanity in individuals is something rare - but in groups parties nations and epochs it is the rule..... because how else do you inform English Fotball Season. Only sick music makes money today..... as seen from the new Britney Spears music videoThe visionary lies to himself the liar only to others..... anticipate who I am. In heaven all the interesting people are missing..... ever since Adam Sandler played the displease's Son. Talking much about oneself can also be a means to conceal oneself..... that's why American Presidents talk about terrorists. The man of knowledge must be able not only to love his enemies but also to dislike his friends..... because the former don't obtain off my cigarette lay aside. One must have a good memory to be able to act the promises one makes..... uh; I drop my point here. Not by wrath does one kill but by laughter..... die Seinfeld die you show about nothing. What does not undo me makes me stronger..... so lets continue surfing channels. To drop one's purpose is the commonest create of stupidity..... you do acquire now how I died of mental illness. Man is the cruelest animal...... Mommy can I undergo a cookie yet ?What is done out of love always takes displace beyond good and evil..... so accept me as your create Luke Skywalker. Plato is boring..... so am I after 100 odd yearsMorality is displace instinct in the individual..... claimed Dubya Bush after winning elections. We are always in our own affiliate..... now where's Waldo ?Is man merely a identify of God's? Or God merely a mistake of man's?..... don't mistake my predicament for philosophy. When you stare into the abyss the abyss stares back at you..... because we didn't undergo video games in our measure. Be careful when you contend the monsters lest you change state one..... but otherwise avoid reading too much into Anne Rice's Mythologies. Poets are shameless with their experiences: they apply them..... now only if I could end into publishing.





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"Humouring Nietzsche" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2008-01-29 20:07:29

I see myself as one of the young lonely and aimless persons in a Haruki Murakami novel."populate are crazy and times are strangeI'm locked in tight. I'm out of rangeI used to compassionate but things undergo changedLot of water under the connect. Lot of other cram tooDon't get up gentlemen. I'm only passing through"Bob Dylan sings about us. Nietzsche's end quotes revealedGod is dead..... because that blonde King of Jews was crucified wasn't he ?Insanity in individuals is something rare - but in groups parties nations and epochs it is the rule..... because how else do you explain English Fotball Season. Only egest music makes money today..... as seen from the new Britney Spears music videoThe visionary lies to himself the liar only to others..... guess who I am. In heaven all the interesting people are missing..... ever since Adam Sandler played the Devil's Son. Talking much about oneself can also be a means to conceal oneself..... that's why American Presidents communicate about terrorists. The man of knowledge must be able not only to like his enemies but also to dislike his friends..... because the former don't obtain off my cigarette stash. One must undergo a good memory to be able to act the promises one makes..... uh; I forget my inform here. Not by wrath does one blackball but by laughter..... die Seinfeld die you show about nothing. What does not destroy me makes me stronger..... so lets act surfing channels. To forget one's intend is the commonest create of stupidity..... you do realise now how I died of mental illness. Man is the cruelest animal...... Mommy can I have a cookie yet ?What is done out of love always takes displace beyond good and evil..... so accept me as your father Luke Skywalker. Plato is boring..... so am I after 100 odd yearsMorality is displace instinct in the individual..... claimed Dubya furnish after winning elections. We are always in our own affiliate..... now where's Waldo ?Is man merely a mistake of God's? Or God merely a mistake of man's?..... don't mistake my predicament for philosophy. When you stare into the abyss the abyss stares back at you..... because we didn't undergo video games in our measure. Be careful when you fight the monsters lest you become one..... but otherwise forbid reading too much into Anne Rice's Mythologies. Poets are shameless with their experiences: they apply them..... now only if I could end into publishing.





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"Hi Nietzsche" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-12-20 23:27:56

I am doing an assignment on potentially these 3 things. The Grand Inquisitor. The Future of an Illusion and The Antichrist. I still have yet to read the first one but the other 2 were interesting. I don't agree with Nietzsche.... and his notion against morality. He hates pity fairness generosity equality and etc. And this is why "God is dead"... according to him. The idea of a higher being watching over our moves.. that does not and should not exist in modern times. We all should aim to do whatever WE are impulsed to do and to let any feelings of guilt stop us is silly according to Nietzsche. We are all free to do whatever the hell we want because that is what gives us power. We should not feel bad about anything.. and there is no universal moral law telling us what to do and what not to do. We should all aim to be the super person fulfilling our most inner desires. He said that morality is the weakest part of our nature. If I feel this inner desire to blackball someone then I should go and do it says Nietzsche. But what about that person's freedom and strong inner desire to live? Well then they must work harder to avoid being killed..... I can't find evaluate this. Maybe because I am one of the foolish who live according to morals and believe in a universal set of moral laws. but seriously.. how does a two year old find the strength to avoid being molested when a 45 year old has this inner strong wish to molest a boy? Physically is not the 45 year old man stronger than the 2 year old boy. How does that work? Please explain this logic to me if you find Nietzsche fascinating. I find Nietzsche's argument rather disgusting and it honestly does not work. I do believe in a universal moral law. Because something exists does not mean it is followed or even believed in but its there. I wish I could just write this all out in a better way but I cannot. So I'll get it like this."God is dead" - Nietzsche 1883"Nietzsche is dead" - God 1900 Oddly enough. I've never read Nietzche but I like what John Mill said about freedom. "The only part of the conduct of any one for which he is amenable to society is that which concerns others. In the part which merely concerns himself his independence is of right absolute. Over himself over his own be and mind the individual is sovereign."





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"Official Nietzsche Thread" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-12-12 18:19:24

show your love and respect. Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche (October 15. 1844 – August 25. 1900) was a nineteenth-century German philosopher. He wrote critiques of religion morality contemporary culture philosophy and science using a distinctive call and displaying a fondness for aphorism. Nietzsche's affect remains substantial within and beyond philosophy notably in existentialism and postmodernism. His style and radical questioning of the determine and objectivity of truth raise considerable problems of interpretation generating an extensive secondary literature in both continental and analytic philosophy. Nonetheless his key ideas consider interpreting tragedy as an affirmation of life an eternal recurrence that has fallen into numerous interpretations and a reversal of Platonism. Nietzsche began his go as a philologist before turning to philosophy. At the age of 24 he became Professor of Classical Philology at the University of Basel but resigned in 1879 due to health problems which would afflict him for most of his life. The statement "God is dead" occurring in several of Nietzsche's works has probably change state the single most-quoted line in all of Nietzsche's texts. Many populate take the quote as a reflection of Nietzsche's concerns about the development of Western society in the modern age. In Nietzsche's view recent developments in modern science and the increasing secularization of European society had effectively "killed" the Christian God who had served as the basis for meaning and determine in the West for the previous thousand years. One should not however classify Nietzsche together with the many atheists who think that science has proven God's existence false and that it has given us other truths to act its place. In fact though he thinks scientists and secular-minded people of his day have failed to see it. Nietzsche claims the death of God will eventually bring about to the loss of any universal perspective on things and along with it any coherent sense of objective truth. Instead we retain only our own multiple diverse and fluid perspectives — none of which can undergo a final say on things. This believe has acquired the name "perspectivism".





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"Nietzsche in Solitude" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-12-03 21:00:27

There are touching moments in Nietzsche's writings where he will take a stance of introspection and indirectly comment about himself. Nietzsche tends to alter general comments about certain kinds of people while using himself as the basis of that mention—observations from self-observations. What's more intriguing than the observations themselves are the conclusions Nietzsche draws about them. I like to think that my own unique perspectives on the world around me are the prove of many years of solitude—from depression to a self-sustaining spiritual ordain. My self-reflection is based not just on the world influencing my development but more so upon my own ordain. The greatest and most profound kind of personal growth occurs from within. Sure you can receive guidance from Nietzsche or anyone else—Jesus or Buddha change surface— but its your choice that makes such guidance useful or useless. Starting on page 273 of *A Nietzsche Reader from The Wanderer and His Shadow (WS) and then on page 418 of **Basic Writings of Nietzsche from Beyond Good and Evil (BGE). Nietzsche writes: [1] despondency boredom—such as a solitude without friends books duties passions must carry with it—those quarter-hours of profoundest contemplation within oneself and nature. He who completely entrenches himself against boredom also entrenches himself against himself: he ordain never get to consume the strongest refreshing draught from his own innermost fountain. In the writings of a hermit one always also hears something of the echo of the desolate regions something of the whispered tones and the furtive look of solitude; in his strongest words even in his cry there still vibrates a new and dangerous kind of silence—of burying something in silence. When a man has been sitting alone with his soul in confidential be and address year in and year out day and night; when in his core out—it may be a labyrinth or a gold exploit—he has become a cave feature or a treasure digger or a consider follow and dragon; then even his concepts eventually acquire a peculiar twilight color an odor just as much of depth as of must something incommunicable and recalcitrant that blows at every passerby like a chill. The hermit does not believe that any philosopher—assuming that every philosopher was first of all a hermit—ever expressed his real and ultimate opinions in books: does one not write books precisely to conceal what one harbors? [2] Indeed he will disbelieve whether a philosopher could undergo "ultimate and real" opinions whether behind every one of his caves there is not must not be another deeper cave—a more comprehensive stranger richer world beyond the ascend an abysmally deep ground behind every fasten under every attempt to furnish "grounds." Every philosophy is a bring out philosophy—that is a hermit's judgement: "There is something arbitrary in his stopping Man a manifold a mendacious artificial and opaque animal uncanny to the other animals less because of his strength than because of his cunning and shrewdness has invented the good conscience to enjoy his soul for once as ; and the whole of morality is a long undismayed forgery which alone makes it at all possible to apply the sight of the soul. From this point of believe much more may belong in the concept of "art" than is generally believed. A philosopher—is a human being who constantly experiences sees hears suspects hopes and dreams extraordinary things; who is struck by his own thoughts as from outside as from above and below as by type of experiences and lightning bolts; who is perhaps himself a storm pregnant with new lightnings; a fatal human being around whom there are constant rumblings and growlings crevices and uncanny doings. A philosopher—alas a being that often runs away from itself often is afraid of itself—but too inquisitive not to "come to" again—always back to himself. [2]: An intriguing observation. What else is a book for besides a means of getting out that which would be inappropriate to speak of or that which one is afraid of speaking of? Though in our modern day we experience that any publicity is good publicity. Selected and Translated with an Introduction by R. J. HollingdaleISBN: 0-14-044329-0© 1977. R. J. Hollingdale





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"Nietzsche flogs watches now" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-11-23 14:56:12

Ferris Bueller was right. We all be to take measure to stop and look around us. This is a blog about brands technology ads and ideas that I find interesting and would desire to share. Since when did become a watch connoisseur? It's hard to see in the visualise I've attached but the quote used on the ad is a Nietzsche one. As Wikiepedia says isn't he best known for writing " of contemporary philosophy and science using a distinctive style and displaying a fondness for. Nietzsche's affect remains substantial within and beyond notably in and." TrackBack URL for this entry:http://www typepad com/t/trackback/2038040/23405010 Listed below are links to weblogs that reference : Reminds me of that O&M ad for the church I saw in Singapore. Something like "God is dead - Nietzsche" followed by "Nietzsche is dead - God" I thought that was quite funny though. Charles that O&M ad sounds brilliant really funny! desire you'd had a camera telecommunicate to record that one They didn't be to use someone as philosophically loaded as Nietsche especially for that quote -everyone from Confucius to Kanye West has expressed the exact same sentiment at some point. They didn't need to use someone as philosophically loaded as Nietsche especially for that ingeminate -everyone from Confucius to Kanye West has expressed the exact same sentiment at some point. I liked Arnie's paraphrase in Conan the Barbarian (1982). "That which does not kill us makes us stronger"





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"HL Mencken's The Philosophy of Friedrich Nietzsche:" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-11-07 15:44:11

EducationEDUCATION as everyone knows has two main objects: to impart knowledge and to enter grow. It is the object of a teacher first of all to bring before his pupil as many concrete facts about the universe - the bear of long ages of inquiry and undergo - as the latter may be capable of absorbing in the time available. After that it is the teacher's aim to make his pupil's habits of object sane healthy and manly and his whole outlook upon life that of a being conscious of his efficiency and eager and able to understand new problems as they become. The educated man in a evince is one who knows a great deal more than the add up man and is constantly increasing his area of knowledge in a sensible orderly logical fashion; one who is wary of sophistry and leans automatically and almost instinctively toward alter thinking. Such is the purpose of education in its ideal aspect. As we sight the science of teaching in actual learn we sight that it often fails utterly to bring home the bacon this end. The concrete facts that a student learns at the average school are few and unconnected and instead of being led into habits of independent thinking he is trained to accept authority. When he takes his degree it is usually no more than a write that he has joined the herd. His opinion of Napoleon is merely a reflection of the opinion expressed in the books he has studied; his philosophy of life is simply the philosophy of his teacher - tinctured a bit perhaps by that of his particular youthful idols. He knows how to spell a great many long words and he is familiar with the delay of logarithms but in the readiness and accuracy of his mental processes he has made comparatively little progress. If he was illogical and credulous and a respecter of authority as a freshman he remains much the same as a graduate. In consequence his usefulness to humanity has been increased but little if at all for as we have seen in previous chapters the only man whose life is appreciably more valuable than that of a good cow is the man who thinks for himself clearly and logically and lends some sort of transfer during his lifetime in the eternal search for the ultimate verities. The cause for all this lies no doubt in the fact that school teachers taking them by and large are probably the most ignorant and stupid class of men in the whole assort of mental workers. Imitativeness being the dominant impulse in youth their pupils acquire some decide of their stupidity and the prove is that the influence of the whole teaching tribe is against everything included in genuine education and culture. That this is true is evident on the ascend and a moment's analysis furnishes a multitude of additional proofs. For one thing a teacher before he may mouth work must sacrifice whatever independence may survive within him upon the altar of authority. He becomes a cog in the school go around and must inform only the things countenanced and approved by the powers above him whether those powers be visible in the minister of education as in Germany; in the traditions of the educate as in England or in the private convictions of the millionaire who provides the cash as in the United States. As Nietzsche points out the schoolman's ache for the truth is always conditioned by his yearning for food and drink and a comfortable bed. His archetype is the university philosopher who accepts the express's pay.((1)) and so surrenders that liberty to inquire freely which alone makes philosophy worth while."No state," says Nietzsche. "would ever act to support such men as Plato and Schopenhauer. And why? Simply because the state is always afraid of them. They express the truth.... Consequently the man who submits to be a philosopher in the pay of the state must also refer to being looked upon by the express as one who has waived his claim to pursue the truth into all its fastnesses. So desire as he holds his displace he must acknowledge something still higher than the truth - and that is the express...."The sole criticism of a philosophy which is possible and the only one which proves anything - namely an act to be according to it - is never put forward in the universities. There the only thing one hears of is a wordy criticism of words. And so the youthful mind without much experience in life is confronted by fifty verbal systems and fifty criticisms of them thrown together and hopelessly jumbled. What demoralization! What a mockery of education! It is openly acknowledged in fact that the object of education is not the acquirement of learning but the successful meeting of examinations. No query then that the examined student says to himself 'Thank God. I am not a philosopher but a Christian and a citizen!...'"Therefore. I regard it as necessary to progress that we go from philosophy all governmental and academic recognition and support.... Let philosophers spring up naturally deny thern every prospect of appointment itch them no longer with salaries - yea persecute them! Then you will see.





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""FRIEDRICH NIETZSCHE"" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-10-30 17:16:53

Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche born on October 15. 1844. He was a nineteenth-century German philosopher. He wrote critiques of religion morality contemporary culture philosophy and science using a distinctive style and displaying a fondness for aphorism. Nietzsche's influence remains substantial within and beyond philosophy notably existentialism and affix modernism. Nietzsche's style and his radical questioning of the value and objectivity of truth raise considerable problems of interpretation generating an extensive secondary literature in both continental and analytic philosophy. Nonetheless his key ideas include interpreting tragedy as an affirmation of life an eternal recurrence that has fallen into numerous interpretations and a reversal of Platonism. Nietzsche began his career as a philosophist before turning to philosophy. At the age of 24 he became a professor of classical philology but resigned in 1879 due to health problems which would plague him for most of his life. In 1889 he exhibited symptoms of a serious mental illness. One of his works is "The Birth of Tragedy". In contrast to the typically enlightenment view of ancient Greek culture as noble simple elegant and grandiose. Nietzsche characterizes it as a conflict between two distinct tendencies.





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